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    At-St-PL

    Polish bootleg industry is full of mysteries and riddles, still waiting for being solved. One of them is unart At-St Driver.

    As we know, a sub-series of 10 unart items - in contrary to Kenner-shaped sub-series of 17 - has been copied directly from movable figures of Elektrospółdzielnia series. The latter was produced with three kinds of limbs, originated from Kenner's Scout, TIE Pilot and At-At Driver. Some movables were made in two limb versions. The makers of unart copies had to make a decission, which limb version will be the matrice. Or maybe they did bootlegs of what they actually got in hands? However, they used two of three limb versions in their production: we have today 2 unarts with Pilot limbs, Prune Face and Nien Nunb. There was not much choice there: in movable version both were produced that way, with totaly unique digits of Nunb with Scout limbs. But we have also 8 unarts with Scout limbs, some of them having double-version limb variants in the movable origin: Biker Scout (own limbs as movable), Fett (BS), Snowtrooper (BS), Rebel Hoth (BS), Luke Pilot (BS), Lando General (BS, unique TIE), Imperial Gunner (BS, TIE), At-St Driver (TIE, possibly unique BS). As we can see, the dilemma could appear in the case of Gunner, which was made as movable in equally numbered two versions. The makers used the BS limbed figure as a model here.

    But what about At-St Driver? The Elektrospółdzielnia figure was made virtually ONLY with TIE pilot limbs:



    Though we have two limb versions of this figure in the later generations, I don't know a trustworthy source showing the first generation BS limbs At-St Driver movable figure. I made one myself, as a custom, using black limbs from Elektrospółdzilenia TIE Pilot (which, ironicaly, had only BS limb version!), to create a possible outfit of such model for At-St unarts:



    This would possibly be the father of figures traditionally made in the whole palette of colors:



    To be honest, I don't remember them from the shops when I was a kid, in the middle 80's. But of course it could be just a normal situation those times. However, we may put three thesis here:

    1. There was a number of unique first gen At-St Drivers made by Elektrospółdzielnia and luckily one of them dropped in hands of unart series makers.

    UPDATE 11.2015! GOT HIM! The unique, original, first generation At-St Driver with BS limbs has appeared today Comes from original set from the 80's, right from the first owner's hands:



    2. The change of movable figure's generation appeared earlier than we assume, maybe before 1989, and the unart was made from the very first examples of them.
    3. The unart At-St was made in the new epoque, 1990's, from the normally available 2nd gen movables.

    We may assume, the whole series of 10 unarts were started in the same time, and I remember I saw an unart Fett from about 1988-9. Maybe the case of At-St Driver would make us rethink the time context of the whole series, maybe it was really a late production, not linked with the 17 Kenner-shaped unarts available in shops already in 1985 (and maybe even before)... Please write me if anyone has a TRUE, proved first gen movable At-St in his collection!

    Jakub
    Last edited by Jakub; 11-07-2015 at 03:16 PM.
    WTB Polish:
    1st gen Zuckuss ATAT limbs | unart: red Zuckuss, red Commando, yellow Luke, brown Luke, yellow Veers, pink Chirpa
    http://starwarsaw.pl

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    Another fantastic thread Jakub, love the history youve put down too, thanks for another great thread, cheers

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    The articulated one in the first pictures looks wrong, the limbs and torso don't match at all imo. The unarticulated ones on the other hand are quite cool.

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    Today I got the holy grail: the only proved example of first generation At-St Driver with Biker Scout limbs! This is the missing part of a chain, linking this series with the unart At-St Drivers.



    As you can see, there is more than just simply black limbs. There are silver paints on knees and red paints on ankles and leg. This is one of the most thrilling moments in my collector's life The riddle is solved. Thank you. Have a good weekend.

    Jakub
    WTB Polish:
    1st gen Zuckuss ATAT limbs | unart: red Zuckuss, red Commando, yellow Luke, brown Luke, yellow Veers, pink Chirpa
    http://starwarsaw.pl

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    Jakub,

    Where does one look for this, or any other vintage items for that matter, in Poland? I was there earlier this year and did not see anything in the Krakow area, or even a place to attempt to look. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough, but it seems like it would be quite difficult to work on any vintage collecting in your neck of the woods! Congrats on the find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas280 View Post
    Jakub,

    Where does one look for this, or any other vintage items for that matter, in Poland? I was there earlier this year and did not see anything in the Krakow area, or even a place to attempt to look. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough, but it seems like it would be quite difficult to work on any vintage collecting in your neck of the woods! Congrats on the find!

    Hi Leonidas, thank you, the best source for nice hunt is of course one of my sale threads, which I make couple times a year here on RS Tomorrow I will run a new one I think.

    This trophy comes from a guy living near to Warsaw. But Kraków is also a good area, I got lot of nice finds there. Of course you don't get them right on the street, some time ago I made a huge search work to complete my Polish collection. Now the market seems to be dead a bit, maybe we dig up them all? But still there are some things on auctions or people write me because of my website. If you are a beginner, I suggest to be careful, since lot of fakes surfaced just recently...

    Jakub
    WTB Polish:
    1st gen Zuckuss ATAT limbs | unart: red Zuckuss, red Commando, yellow Luke, brown Luke, yellow Veers, pink Chirpa
    http://starwarsaw.pl

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    A nice 1st gen at st with scout limbs jakub.ive had 2 from childhood collections for several years.one is identical to yours the other has coloured shoulder pads.

    Daren

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    Quote Originally Posted by emperorburns View Post
    A nice 1st gen at st with scout limbs jakub.ive had 2 from childhood collections for several years.one is identical to yours the other has coloured shoulder pads.

    Daren
    Agree! I found them just today in your pictures! Now we can say at least the one of them is legit - since it doubles with the one above. The limbs painting scheme is identical to this of Veers, but one is molded black, the other grey. The second of yours could have been mixed with TIE Pilot limbs, it happened very often. But could be original as well. Exciting stuff!

    Jakub
    Agree,
    WTB Polish:
    1st gen Zuckuss ATAT limbs | unart: red Zuckuss, red Commando, yellow Luke, brown Luke, yellow Veers, pink Chirpa
    http://starwarsaw.pl

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