Need some help and discussion guys! This never even crossed my mind until today when I was discussing this subject with Chris and Shawn (who incidentally focus on figures first released on 65 back cards) but I haven't seen any 77/79 back proofs of ROTJ figures that were first released on 65 backs?
After reading Max and Ben's proof website, it mentions that many 65 back characters can be found on later ROTJ proofs:
However the only 65back ROTJ characters on 77 back proofs that I can recall were in fact production like signed samples, the two I am thinking of are owned by JohnA (Biker Scout) and Mattias (Chief Chirpa) so is the information on swproofcards.com incorrect or do some exist?
The complete list of 65 back figures is (I think) as follows:
- Nein Nunb
- Admiral Ackbar
- Chief Chirpa *signed production like 77 back sample exists*
- Gamorrean Guard
- Rebel Commando
- Bib Fortuna
- Biker Scout *signed production like 77 back sample exists*
- Lando Skiff
- General Madine
- Ree Yees
- Luke Jedi
Perhaps I can edit this list to show what is out there, be it a real proof (if any exist) or some more signed samples like the Chirpa and Biker Scout mentioned if we get some replies on this?
Interestingly those signed samples look just like these earlier released characters on 77 back "proofs" shown on the Archive:
Return of the Jedi 77-Back Greedo Proof Card - Star Wars Collectors Archive
Return of the Jedi 77-Back Snaggletooth Proof Card - Star Wars Collectors Archive
Does anyone know the origin of these signed sample cards? Were they all found in a single QC sample find? They remind me very much of the Palitoy unused backers that sometimes get discussed (of course the signature makes them much more special!)
JohnA wrote this on his archive entry:
So would that mean that no real (common) 77 back proof exists for the 65 back characters? Only the signed QC sample cards?It is my belief that this card is not a printer's proof so much as it is a signed production sample. I believe that one of each cardback being printed at the time would have been pulled from the line, examined, and signed off on to maintain quality control.
I hope Mattias can include a picture of his 77 back Chief Chirpa signed sample as well and this thread can generate some interesting discussion (and perhaps some new information and pictures!) as I really enjoyed discussing this today with Chris and Shawn!