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RaptorBandito
08-05-2017, 12:23 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_23386.JPG

Kareth
08-05-2017, 12:52 PM
I hope it has nerf play. Kidding but I think it has that voice effect thing

Agree on smoke name


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TK_842
08-05-2017, 01:39 PM
That new A-Wing is looking good. Nice nod the the concept with that blue deco.

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 02:31 PM
That a-wing is the only TLJ item I'm likely to buy.

darthsatan
08-05-2017, 03:15 PM
It looks a bit off to me somehow. Is it a repaint of that horrible cheap Rebels version?

DarkManX
08-05-2017, 04:33 PM
it looks pretty good

TK_842
08-05-2017, 04:56 PM
It looks a bit off to me somehow. Is it a repaint of that horrible cheap Rebels version?

Nope. Looks like a whole new mold.

TJapes
08-05-2017, 04:58 PM
Looks good to me, that colour scheme really works for the design. Pilot looks OK as well. Looking forward to more pics of this one!

Batman
08-05-2017, 05:24 PM
Looks identical to the one on the rebels show right down to the side guns.

Yeah to Disney for allowing originality in this trilogy.

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 06:16 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BXZYFKKHyaN/

CT1138
08-05-2017, 06:25 PM
If it doesn't have an obnoxious Nerf feature on it, this will be an instant buy.

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 06:25 PM
Sorry that's a link to instagram but if you actually watch it on the instagram app it's a video of the various sides of the box.

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 06:46 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_2932.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_2932.PNG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_2931.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_2931.PNG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_2930.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_2930.PNG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_2929.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_2929.PNG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_29271.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_29271.PNG)

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 06:47 PM
And I believe* this is an all new mold, even though the Guns are similar to the rebels a wing I don't think it's the same body.

Julythrunov
08-05-2017, 07:04 PM
Upon further inspection it is certainly not the same mold as the rebels awing. On a side note, look at the diminished quality since the legacy collection days. Unreal.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_2936.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_2936.PNG)

RaptorBandito
08-05-2017, 07:09 PM
I really don't care about the "Force Link" feature, but if it gets rid of Nerf crap on toys going forward then I would say I'm happy it's here LOL.

Jayson
08-05-2017, 07:37 PM
Nerf is gone from all vehicles for The Last Jedi. Also, the dead giveaway is that Nerf logo isn't emblazoned on the front of the box. No logo, no Nerf.

Masterfett
08-05-2017, 08:52 PM
I'm more excited over the Pilot than the ship! lol I like that olive color of her flight suit, nice to see something other than orange all the time.

Since the Nerf aspect is gone, I'm surprised they didn't just use the older mold. I mean it's not like there are nay major changes in the design to warrant a new mold.
I may get one, i like the deco.

darthsatan
08-06-2017, 01:53 AM
And I believe* this is an all new mold, even though the Guns are similar to the rebels a wing I don't think it's the same body.

Ah, that's it, yes. Those guns.

Also, it doesn't quite look right becausee the cockpit seems a bit too high and is missing the bit behind it that tapers into the body proper. Laziness or intentional I wonder?

Coreworld
08-06-2017, 02:07 AM
That's an instant buy for me! I'm feeling very happy that we are (seemingly) taking a step back in the right direction with these TLJ ships, it's not Legacy but it's leagues better than TFA's offerings.

DarkManX
08-06-2017, 03:53 AM
Guessing this is the $39.99 mystery vehicle. Always loved the A-Wing design. Makes sense for the resistance to have to make do with older style ships since they are basically the Contras to the New Republic's USA.

Internets
08-06-2017, 06:38 AM
Size wise, I'd guess in between TLC A-Wing and the Rebels one. If it leans more to Legacy that'd be okay, I guess (wasn't that ever so slightly oversized anyway?).

Julythrunov
08-06-2017, 06:47 AM
Ah, that's it, yes. Those guns.

Also, it doesn't quite look right becausee the cockpit seems a bit too high and is missing the bit behind it that tapers into the body proper. Laziness or intentional I wonder?

I think this is an updated version of the awing, with changes to the body, like the new TFA T70 x-wing

Deak_Starkiller
08-06-2017, 07:58 AM
I've noticed the new design has the stabilizer wing-tapering run a bit more forward past the cockpit, so maybe the increased height of the cockpit-bubble compensates a bit for visibility. I can't tell either if the nose on the new design is longer than its predecessor, so that the bubble helps with over the nose visibility. The machinery on the back of the cockpit is suppose to house the deflector shield generator, particular the bulge on back of the cockpit on the previous design. It looks like there's a smaller one is potentially makes it a smaller target.

activistfangirl
08-06-2017, 10:04 AM
The Kylo Ren's TIE Advanced Fighter by the looks of things judging by the figures beside the toy ships, is a micro-sized toy ship so will look very odd next to the regular sized toy A-Wing ship.
Very odd of Hasbro to do that with two main vehicles in the movie. Kylo's ship looks ridiculously small in comparison to the A-Wing, when it should be much larger in size.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/75B0D691-9A07-4140-B655-787825A31F66.jpg

Judging by the real size of the TIE Silencer's cockpit (with Kylo in it) from the official images the toy should be over twice the size of the A-Wing, not nearly the same size as it!

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/29ECD7C1-DB31-4A37-90D2-0DAE5C6D3495.jpg

Maverick10126
08-06-2017, 10:09 AM
I'm glad it looks pretty much the same...because I don't like things that are new....or different....

Vorax
08-06-2017, 03:26 PM
Micro Fleet, a waste of plastic it appears. Hopefully the sizes arent that off as these pictures seem to indicate. Its scary and indeed a shame.

Goldleaderone
08-06-2017, 04:22 PM
I'm liking the design of the A-wing, and so glad to see no Nerf features.

Is it me or does Kylo's TIE look a bit like the now legends TIE Avenger?

CT1138
08-06-2017, 07:35 PM
I really don't care about the "Force Link" feature, but if it gets rid of Nerf crap on toys going forward then I would say I'm happy it's here LOL. Exactly how I feel. I'll never use it, but at least it's not obnoxious.


Nerf is gone from all vehicles for The Last Jedi. Also, the dead giveaway is that Nerf logo isn't emblazoned on the front of the box. No logo, no Nerf. I'm beaming! :D

saddestmoon
08-06-2017, 09:27 PM
I'm liking this version of the A-Wing.

Never picked up a 3 3/4 inch scale A-Wing before, but this one is certainly tempting.

I quite like it's 'flatter' hull shape, as opposed to the ROTJ version, which is more rounded (width wise, from the bottom to the top).

Darth_Broem
08-06-2017, 09:28 PM
Well the Silencer is $50 at this scale. They probably assume nobody will pay for a bigger version?

DarkManX
08-07-2017, 12:32 AM
The Kylo Ren's TIE Advanced Fighter by the looks of things judging by the figures beside the toy ships, is a micro-sized toy ship so will look very odd next to the regular sized toy A-Wing ship.
Very odd of Hasbro to do that with two main vehicles in the movie. Kylo's ship looks ridiculously small in comparison to the A-Wing, when it should be much larger in size.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/75B0D691-9A07-4140-B655-787825A31F66.jpg

Judging by the real size of the TIE Silencer's cockpit (with Kylo in it) from the official images the toy should be over twice the size of the A-Wing, not nearly the same size as it!

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/29ECD7C1-DB31-4A37-90D2-0DAE5C6D3495.jpg





I'm like 99% certain the kylo isn't actually next to the vehicle.

activistfangirl
08-07-2017, 04:28 AM
I'm like 99% certain the kylo isn't actually next to the vehicle.

I guess we will have to wait and see? Roll on Force Friday!

darthsatan
08-07-2017, 06:07 AM
Roll on January when they are tenner in Tesco! ;)

Hasbro have had 22 years of me buying things at full price upon their immediate release. I struggle to care these days.

DarkArtist
08-07-2017, 08:53 AM
the A-Wing looks awesome. definite pick up for me.

_Darren_
08-07-2017, 03:24 PM
Roll on January when they are tenner in Tesco! ;)

Hasbro have had 22 years of me buying things at full price upon their immediate release. I struggle to care these days.

i adopted this prior to TFA.....haven't paid full retail for this crap since Hasbro cheapened and downgraded their products.

If by some miracle they decide to return to quality toy making again...they will have my full priced custom...otherwise
It's wait it out....and cheap it out.....


Darren

darthsatan
08-07-2017, 03:56 PM
Do you still buy everything (and more) Darren? Not me these days.

DarthChevron
08-07-2017, 04:54 PM
Looks ok. But... From the way it's been photographed I suspect there's no undercarriage. Hope I'm wrong.

Masterfett
08-07-2017, 05:11 PM
So i found out a little bit today about why these slipped through at Kmart. They apparently broke up the cases and shipped them in repack boxes, hence why no "Do NOT Sell before date" on the box, like the other merchandise does. They had two each of the A-Wing and Rathtar at my local store. I'll admit the A-Wing did look very neat in hand. But I have no intention of paying full price for this or the other set, they just aren't worth that price to me. I'll wait it out.

Andle_Pevan
08-07-2017, 05:59 PM
On the front of the A-Wing box, in the upper right side, there is a grey ship. What is that? It looks sort of like a B-Wing. Any ideas?

ReturnoftheJedi
08-07-2017, 07:33 PM
The Kylo Ren's TIE Advanced Fighter by the looks of things judging by the figures beside the toy ships, is a micro-sized toy ship so will look very odd next to the regular sized toy A-Wing ship.
Very odd of Hasbro to do that with two main vehicles in the movie. Kylo's ship looks ridiculously small in comparison to the A-Wing, when it should be much larger in size.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/75B0D691-9A07-4140-B655-787825A31F66.jpg

Judging by the real size of the TIE Silencer's cockpit (with Kylo in it) from the official images the toy should be over twice the size of the A-Wing, not nearly the same size as it!

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/29ECD7C1-DB31-4A37-90D2-0DAE5C6D3495.jpg





I never had a TIE Advanced before, except maybe the LEGO mini model. I can feel it calling to me as well.

saddestmoon
08-07-2017, 07:38 PM
On the front of the A-Wing box, in the upper right side, there is a grey ship. What is that? It looks sort of like a B-Wing. Any ideas?

Almost certainly is a Resistance Bomber, considering the context of an A-Wing.

Cyko_Droid
08-08-2017, 08:53 AM
Looks ok. But... From the way it's been photographed I suspect there's no undercarriage. Hope I'm wrong.

Oh, no, I didn't even think of that. I can handle if it's a little smaller than the vintage A-wing, but if it's half hollow, that'll bum me out. I do like that the pilot has a transparent visor; even if her helmet isn't removable, it's an improvement over the "banana" visors of TFA pilots.

Deak_Starkiller
08-08-2017, 09:33 AM
Gosh, I hope not....that's more befitting the value/scaled vehicle line. And even if it turns out to be a negative space design, that to me would be a bit of a disservice to the homage paid to Ralph McQuarrie. (The original design was suppose to be blue, but changed to red for ROTJ because of blue screen limitations).

DarthChevron
08-08-2017, 04:31 PM
Just to clarify, by undercarriage I mean landing skids, preferably retractable. I have a (bad) feeling this ship might just rest on those two rear fins.

R1G4R3PO
08-08-2017, 04:55 PM
It does appear to possibly have at least one landing gear in the front otherwise it could be off balanced. Regardless, I'm still getting this. May not be on 9/1 Or even in sept., but I will still get this.

Julythrunov
08-08-2017, 05:13 PM
It looks like it probably has one pull down landing leg in the front and two "fins" in the back. I could be wrong and I hope I am. God I miss quality Star Wars toys. I'm so tired of the cheap stuff.

Deak_Starkiller
08-08-2017, 05:16 PM
From the looks of it, it seems to have only one gear, we'll see eventually. But it's not as pronounced as compared to say the X-wing, so I'm not personally bummed by it. The only thing I'm hoping it doesn't have are thickened notches on the bottom of the fins, but so far it doesn't appear to be that way.

Masterfett
08-08-2017, 06:17 PM
Nothing against those first pictures, bet here are the ones I took.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing_2.jpg

UPC 630509532834

Razgriz
08-08-2017, 06:25 PM
You guys will probably hate me but the size of Hera's A-wing actually really grew on me. Despite that size it still looked "right" next to even huge ships compared to Poe's X-Wing that looks way off.

jedimasterc
08-08-2017, 07:24 PM
I know these have been found at Kmart though the one we have is closing at the end of October. Also, they have been very strict in the past with the street dates as well. I doubt our Kmart will get these in if they are trying to blowout the store.

ReturnoftheJedi
08-09-2017, 05:25 AM
Nothing against those first pictures, bet here are the ones I took.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing_2.jpg

UPC 630509532834

Nice - it reminds me of Poe Dameron's X-Wing from The Force Awakens. I may consider getting it, one day.

Trooper31
08-09-2017, 05:50 AM
I'm assuming that the helmet is not removable, is that right?

JynForce
08-09-2017, 09:15 AM
This looks pretty cool. I don't usually buy vehicles (especially since they are usually way overpriced) but I may actually pick this one up, as I really want the figure as well

RaptorBandito
08-09-2017, 09:55 AM
Nothing against those first pictures, bet here are the ones I took.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing_2.jpg

UPC 630509532834

Nice! Thanks for clearer shots. Are you planning on opening it up? Would love to see all the angles on it.

CT1138
08-09-2017, 01:54 PM
Wait, they're out already? I didn't think they would be out until Force Friday.

Maverick10126
08-09-2017, 01:59 PM
Wait, they're out already? I didn't think they would be out until Force Friday.

Some K-marts put them out early by mistake.

Masterfett
08-09-2017, 05:27 PM
Nice! Thanks for clearer shots. Are you planning on opening it up? Would love to see all the angles on it.
I didn't buy it, only took a couple pics while in the store. So opening it up for closer look was out of the question. lol
It also has the sale lock on it until 9/1, so it wouldn't do me any good. I know a guy who works there, and let me in the back to examine them.

Besides, as much as I like it, I'll likely wait for a Sale to buy one.

The helmet almost does seem removable. And it seems to be the same base as Paige, so mayb it will be.
But since Porkin's kid didn't have one, this one may not either.

CT1138
08-09-2017, 09:14 PM
Some K-marts put them out early by mistake.

Awe man, and they just closed the local K-Mart!

activistfangirl
08-10-2017, 06:46 AM
Nothing against those first pictures, bet here are the ones I took.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/919/TLJ_A-Wing_2.jpg

UPC 630509532834

Are you going to take photos of the vehicle out of the box? We are all waiting with such anticipation to see it!

Coreworld
08-10-2017, 07:12 AM
Are you going to take photos of the vehicle out of the box? We are all waiting with such anticipation to see it!

Masterfett explained in the post above they are locked from selling the above till force Friday, an aquantence who works there let him see it early.

my_kind_of_scum
08-10-2017, 01:24 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/20170810_113744.jpg ('http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/20170810_113744.jpg')

Helmet is not removable, unfortunately.

Masterfett
08-10-2017, 03:01 PM
I was afraid of that, It would be asking too much to get a removable helmet on a pack-in figure of a backgrounder.

RaptorBandito
08-10-2017, 03:18 PM
Are you basing that just off the picture, or seeing it in person? Kind of hard to tell from the pic.

my_kind_of_scum
08-10-2017, 04:34 PM
Are you basing that just off the picture, or seeing it in person? Kind of hard to tell from the pic.

I saw it in person today. Definitely not removable (and the head is sculpted too small for the helmet/body but not terribly so...) The visor looked to be a separate piece glued on to the front, though I am not positive on that. The paint on these that I saw were sloppy as well - on most, the white vest was showing points of green plastic through it.

Julythrunov
08-10-2017, 04:48 PM
Removable helmet on a pack in figure? Them days are long gone.

Deak_Starkiller
08-10-2017, 05:24 PM
??? It's only been two years. :)

R1G4R3PO
08-10-2017, 05:36 PM
I wonder if this will be the ship that tru gets a paint variant exclusive.

Masterfett
08-10-2017, 07:25 PM
TBH, Blue seems more like "their" color. Unless there's an all black on in the movie for Spec-Ops mission.

Or a pink one...

MyenShi
08-11-2017, 03:48 AM
We've seen a reddish orange version in behind the scenes shots, and briefly in the trailer.

That would be a good repaint. Prefer TRU to Walmart as an exclusive.

Trooper31
08-11-2017, 03:56 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/20170810_113744.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/20170810_113744.jpg)

Helmet is not removable, unfortunately.

Thanks for the confirmation. It's not a dealbreaker with this, but it would have been nice to have a removable helmet, especially with a female head underneath it.

Does the box give you an idea of how big the ship is`? Is it bigger than the Hera A-Wing box?
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ReturnoftheJedi
08-11-2017, 04:45 AM
Removable helmet on a pack in figure? Them days are long gone.

Remember the POTF2 A-Wing Fighter pilot? His helmet is pernamently on his head and he lacks peg-holes in his feet. You never know, but best to see what the future holds in store.

darthsatan
08-11-2017, 07:52 AM
Pack-in figures have pretty much usually been of poorer quality than singles. As a collective we have perhaps forgotten, being as for the last few years the whole damn lot of them have been poor quality instead.

Idpullthecurtain
08-11-2017, 08:19 AM
Pack-in figures have pretty much usually been of poorer quality than singles. As a collective we have perhaps forgotten, being as for the last few years the whole damn lot of them have been poor quality instead.

we better hope Snoke follows that pattern too, cos its gonna be a pain in the neck of a figure to get if the playset one is nice.

darthsatan
08-11-2017, 09:18 AM
The main characters always come out again later once they have gouged collectors. I used to always bite - now? Wait it out or just pass.

Trooper31
08-11-2017, 10:31 AM
Pack-in figures have pretty much usually been of poorer quality than singles. As a collective we have perhaps forgotten, being as for the last few years the whole damn lot of them have been poor quality instead.

That is very true. I usually replace the pack-in figure with a single figure.

Masterfett
08-11-2017, 12:38 PM
Thanks for the confirmation. It's not a dealbreaker with this, but it would have been nice to have a removable helmet, especially with a female head underneath it.
Agreed, especially as a customizer. The more usable head sculpts the better! Especially Female ones, as they are fewer and far between.



The main characters always come out again later once they have gouged collectors. I used to always bite - now? Wait it out or just pass.
Not sure if you actually meant gouged, or were trying to type gauged here. But I'm sure either one is appropriate.

macbeath
08-11-2017, 01:10 PM
Removable helmet on a pack in figure? Them days are long gone.


??? It's only been two years. :)

I was thinking the same thing! I'm sure the First Order TIE pilot that came with the Special Forces TIE had a removable helmet

R1G4R3PO
08-11-2017, 01:26 PM
Yeah, both f.o. tie fighters and poe w/ black x-wing all had removable helmets

Deak_Starkiller
08-11-2017, 04:19 PM
TBH, Blue seems more like "their" color.


It might have somewhat liberating for them (ILM) since the original McQuarrie color scheme had to be changed to red for compositing reasons back then. Anyways, the blue schemes on the fighters sets a less aggressive tone amongst the people working there. We're not certain yet if there is a successor to the Y-wing though?

Tyranusspotting
08-13-2017, 04:48 AM
Looks close enough to the Rebels design, which is the reason I'll be buying this. I concur with a previous statement that the scale of Hera's A-Wing is just right. After years of BMF type vehicles I have no more space to display huge ships.

Internets
08-13-2017, 01:30 PM
The Kylo Ren's TIE Advanced Fighter by the looks of things judging by the figures beside the toy ships, is a micro-sized toy ship so will look very odd next to the regular sized toy A-Wing ship.
Very odd of Hasbro to do that with two main vehicles in the movie. Kylo's ship looks ridiculously small in comparison to the A-Wing, when it should be much larger in size.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/75B0D691-9A07-4140-B655-787825A31F66.jpg

Judging by the real size of the TIE Silencer's cockpit (with Kylo in it) from the official images the toy should be over twice the size of the A-Wing, not nearly the same size as it!



If the little round hatch on top is the same size as the hatch on the FO TIE, I think the scale will be okay. I think Kylo is a composite image and isn't representative of the scale.

wedgeswingman
08-13-2017, 08:28 PM
I like this new model, it's closer to the one they're using in REBELS so I think I'll use it as that version rather than the TLJ A-Wing.

activistfangirl
08-16-2017, 12:48 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/e0kFL73.jpg

CT1138
08-16-2017, 12:59 PM
Might just be the quality of the image, but that pic is making me want is a bit less now.

darthsatan
08-16-2017, 01:04 PM
I shall laugh most heartily if that image is to scale figure:ship. I know they're small....just not that small.





Sure I've heard that before somewhere....?

RaptorBandito
08-16-2017, 01:08 PM
Might just be the quality of the image, but that pic is making me want is a bit less now.

The image quality is fine, it just suffers from the same problem a lot of Hasbro promo photos do. High contrast and over exposed lighting.

Julythrunov
08-16-2017, 01:23 PM
I need to see a review of this before I decide. This, and Luke will be my only TLJ purchases.

Internets
08-16-2017, 01:45 PM
LOL If that's a true scale between figure and ship then it's an easy pass.

darthsatan
08-16-2017, 01:52 PM
I came back for a second look.

It's still horrible.

RaptorBandito
08-16-2017, 03:01 PM
Ha looking at some of these newly released Hasbro promo shots that showed up on reddit, I swear they must take their products to get photographed at the DMV. Instead of glamorizing their stuff they make it look worse than it actually is in person.

Coreworld
08-16-2017, 03:06 PM
Well, that just became a wait and see. May just end up seeking out a Legacy/POTF version to scratch that A Wing itch.

Nerfherder
08-16-2017, 04:59 PM
That's not to scale. You can tell because the photo above from the back of the box has the figure and ship in the same image, and the ship is much bigger in relation to the figure.

MyenShi
08-16-2017, 05:42 PM
I'm very critical of Hasbro when warranted but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here. The newly leaked photos are definitely very poorly shot composites and offer no sense of scale.

As mentioned above, the photo on the box show the figure and ship together. The ship will probably feel a bit cheap in hand, but it definitely won't be Hera's A-Wing small. I think it and the TIE Silencer will both be of an acceptable size.

What I'm most relieved about are the side windows behind the canopy. I thought Hasbro cheaped out and they were just painted black plastic from the box pictures, but these new photos show them being clear.

Nighthawk
08-16-2017, 05:50 PM
This is one I need to see reviews first before deciding. From the planograms in Walmart, it seems like this will be $44.99CDN at Walmart which is kinda pricey, but not unexpected.

Masterfett
08-16-2017, 06:11 PM
I shall laugh most heartily if that image is to scale figure:ship. I know they're small....just not that small

Sure I've heard that before somewhere....?

The box is actually fairly big, considering the smaller footprint they're trying to incorporate. Seems about the same size as the ROTS TRU Jedi Figher w/figure. While it doesn't mean that the ship inside is big, I can't imagine them wasting that much packaging if it's small small.

RaptorBandito
08-17-2017, 12:01 AM
You can see a shot of the A-Wing with figures next to it for scale on this commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhQICab9Sb0

So ya, seems about the size of the Jedi Starfighter, which I think is fine. Also nice to see that it includes a landing gear. So glad that Nerf crap is gone.

activistfangirl
08-17-2017, 06:52 AM
It's a bit blurry but you can get the gist of how small the A-Wing is next to the figures:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_56941.JPG

Internets
08-17-2017, 07:04 AM
LOL Even the figure in background makes it look small. No rear landing gear either *sigh*

Deak_Starkiller
08-17-2017, 07:34 AM
The size of this looks like it falls under the Class II vehicle category, so it makes me wonder if this will marketed as such in a future date either w/o a figure or with a different pilot if we see these again in Episode IX.

Julythrunov
08-17-2017, 07:47 AM
It looks thin and small. This is rapidly becoming a pass for me, but I'll wait for more images.

Nighthawk
08-17-2017, 10:15 AM
The size of this looks like it falls under the Class II vehicle category, so it makes me wonder if this will marketed as such in a future date either w/o a figure or with a different pilot if we see these again in Episode IX.

Shelf tags at Walmart in Canada show a C$44.99 Class B vehicle. I think this is the A-Wing and based on the pics, it looks like it'll be a pass for me (at least until it goes on sale)

DarthChevron
08-17-2017, 11:20 AM
Rapidly loosing interest in this. If it only has one retractable skid then I'm out.

Deak_Starkiller
08-17-2017, 03:42 PM
Ok, that's it Hasbro, I want a revised Class II Return Of The Jedi A-wing. I mean it. And don't forget to revise the green version too. I want a homogeneously sized A-wing fleet. Really, I'm serious....yes, outright serious.

Nighthawk
08-17-2017, 04:20 PM
Rapidly loosing interest in this. If it only has one retractable skid then I'm out.


Hey, at least it even has one!

Masterfett
08-17-2017, 05:18 PM
The A-Wing is supposed to be a smaller ship though, POTF was out of scale technically. Remember? Or was that the Snowspeeder, i forget. lol

TBH, i don't mind this one being smaller. But if it is extremely smaller than POTF, and more like Aayla's. Why bother even making anew sculpt? Just repaint hers.
Some of the expenses they go through seem idiotic. IDK.

Regardless, Like I said the ship could be useful as long as the Pilot fits. lol
I'm just not paying full price for a shrunken version.

Julythrunov
08-17-2017, 06:14 PM
The POTF2/Droids a-wing is not too large

DarkManX
08-17-2017, 10:20 PM
Looks about the right size

Deak_Starkiller
08-17-2017, 11:01 PM
The Art Of The Empire Strikes Back book gave a first-hand life-size blueprint of the snowspeeder, and by the looks it, makes the Kenner/POTF2 version noticeably oversized. The recent version scaled it better but I personally haven't cranked out the numbers. The life-size version is supposed to be around 5.3 meters long, so if the math isn't faulty, it's supposed to work out as an 11" long toy.

The A-wing is a bit harder to tell, but the production pics of the ILM model shows it smaller since the pilot's head is noticeably larger underneath the cockpit compared to their toy counterparts (at least from my POV). There maybe some scale in the rebel docking bay footage in ROTJ from some of the live-action people walking around the A-wing in the matte painting, but it's hard to tell also.

Trooper31
08-18-2017, 04:38 AM
This is one I need to see reviews first before deciding. From the planograms in Walmart, it seems like this will be $44.99CDN at Walmart which is kinda pricey, but not unexpected.

Yes, I'm going to wait as well on this one until I see more pics from collectors. I'm not in any hurry to get any of this stuff at the moment because there's still TFA stuff on the shelves here, so I can't imagine this stuff flying off the shelves within the first month.

Even if it is smaller, that's not a deal breaker for me. However, the price will probably be like the Canadian prce (in Euros of course) and I think that's a bit too steep already, if it is a Class II sized vehicle.

jedimasterc
08-21-2017, 03:14 PM
Yeah, I wanted for the Rebels A-wing to go down to $15 and picked up another one for $7 at Walmart at the beginning of this year. No way was I going to pay 30 bucks for it. I do agree, I would have to see what it looks like out of the box.

Nerdherfer
08-22-2017, 03:58 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/20170810_113744.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/20170810_113744.jpg)

Helmet is not removable, unfortunately.
At least the visor is translucent. I don't mind that at all.

Nerdherfer
08-22-2017, 04:21 AM
You guys will probably hate me but the size of Hera's A-wing actually really grew on me. Despite that size it still looked "right" next to even huge ships compared to Poe's X-Wing that looks way off.
I liked Hera's A-wing from the get go. I pulled the springs from the nerf launcher and used the smaller one to hold the tube back, something like our man Nighthawk did with the TIE Strikerhttps://image.ibb.co/dmBJgk/20170820_083042.jpghttps://image.ibb.co/dgPJWk/20170820_083447_1_1.jpgIt's a lot more tolerable to the eye. I think it's maybe more what they had in mind when they "designed" it. I kind of like how it looks stubbier and more beefy. But it is a tiny fighter. This new one is definitely longer, maybe somewhere between Hera's and the POTF mould I'm thinking.https://image.ibb.co/gPx5Bk/20170820_083837.jpghttps://image.ibb.co/g5CYxQ/20170820_090146.jpg

Nighthawk
08-22-2017, 11:36 AM
I actually did the same thing with my Awing as well. Just removed the big spring and used the small one to keep the launch tube retracted. I think it looks better. I just put the nerf dart into the tube so it's kind of a scout/reconnaissance ship and the nerf thing looks like it's a sensor.

Nerdherfer
08-22-2017, 03:03 PM
I just tried the dart. It doesn't look too bad. I have a thing for those led tea lights.. lol Mind you it's a bit of fun putting random objects in there. Lids off pens or glue bottles etc. Get's the imagination going. It could be an intake for a small hyperdrive and shield generator as well. This nerf feature is proving more fun than I gave it credit for. Lol

Masterfett
08-22-2017, 04:53 PM
Please stop posting pics of it. I've resigned myself to never getting Hera's A-Wing, but posting up pictures isn't helping me get over it!

MyenShi
08-22-2017, 05:02 PM
Please stop posting pics of it. I've resigned myself to never getting Hera's A-Wing, but posting up pictures isn't helping me get over it!

If it helps, two of the things that bother me most about it (aside from the size and NERF launcher) that pictures generally don't show:

1. The underside of the cannons are open and the entire assembly is hollow. I don't know how many cents they saved by not making hollow but fully enclosed cannons, but the entire line is a monument to Hasbro's mistakes.

2. Instead of making an opening canopy, they made a hatch by cutting into the body around it. It's unsightly.

Nerdherfer
08-22-2017, 06:35 PM
Please stop posting pics of it. I've resigned myself to never getting Hera's A-Wing, but posting up pictures isn't helping me get over it!
If you see it for $15 just dew it!

Masterfett
08-22-2017, 08:27 PM
I notice that canopy opening and though, how horrid. What genius thought of that i wonder. I'm guessing the only having the actual canopy open wouldn't be large enough to accpept the figure.

Nerdherfer
08-22-2017, 11:04 PM
I notice that canopy opening and though, how horrid. What genius thought of that i wonder. I'm guessing the only having the actual canopy open wouldn't be large enough to accpept the figure.
I don't see a problem with that design, it's the execution that isn't so great. It just doesn't sit flush when it's closed. No fixing that with hot water.

Julythrunov
08-23-2017, 09:03 AM
No landing gear on heras....unacceptable.

Internets
08-23-2017, 09:38 AM
I think they really undervalue the importance of landing gear. I saw some mock-ups of the tiny TFA X-Wings with rear landing gear and it does make a huge difference to your overall impression of scale.

Julythrunov
08-23-2017, 12:58 PM
I think they really undervalue the importance of landing gear. I saw some mock-ups of the tiny TFA X-Wings with rear landing gear and it does make a huge difference to your overall impression of scale.

Got any pics?

darthchewie
08-23-2017, 05:58 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned already but this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89e2UdpF5s)review shows a good size comparison between the new A-Wing and previous versions.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/awing2.png (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/awing2.png)http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/awing.png (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/awing.png)

Masterfett
08-23-2017, 06:10 PM
No landing gear on heras....unacceptable.
Um, it's called imagination don't ya know. The same way you're supposed to imagine the figures having more than 5POA! lol

Maverick10126
08-23-2017, 07:58 PM
So about the same size as the potf2 mold...not bad.

Nerdherfer
08-23-2017, 09:18 PM
I can't even consider them to be the same ship in real terms. As in the R-22 Spearhead was the A-wing leading up to the battle of Yavin vs the RZ-1 A-wing came after and was built by a different manufacturer. Just variations on a certain design. Hera's is obviously a stylised cartoon version like all the other Rebels vehicles. One thing I liked about The Clone Wars was it's vehicles were at least geometrically correct.

Nerdherfer
08-23-2017, 09:35 PM
Just while I'm here, the original 80s mould is based more on the Droids Cartoon vehicle than the movie appearance as well, if the vertical rear fins are any indication.

Maverick10126
08-23-2017, 09:45 PM
I haven't kept up on my A-wing molds. Did they every do an update on the potf mold?

RaptorBandito
08-23-2017, 10:11 PM
I haven't kept up on my A-wing molds. Did they every do an update on the potf mold?

No they haven't. The closest they ever got was adding some better cockpit details added:

http://www.rebelscum.com/tlcvehAwing.asp

Nerdherfer
08-24-2017, 07:11 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/P101000824.JPGhttp://forum.rebelscum.com/showthread.php?t=1079563

I think by the time this thing hit the shelves in 1985 I was more into Bruce Springsteen than Star Wars, but I really missed out. If it even hit the shelves in my part of the world at all..

Nerdherfer
08-24-2017, 08:08 AM
Just while I'm here, the original 80s mould is based more on the Droids Cartoon vehicle than the movie appearance as well, if the vertical rear fins are any indication.
I'd just like to revisit and correct myself here; The A-wing was first released at the tail end of the movie campaign in the first POTF line with the Tatooine Skiff. So saying it was probably based off the cartoon was a bunch of baloney. I'm sorry.

Julythrunov
08-24-2017, 10:05 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned already but this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89e2UdpF5s)review shows a good size comparison between the new A-Wing and previous versions.
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/awing2.png (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/awing2.png)http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/awing.png (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/awing.png)


sssoooo greatful this review.

The two items I am interested l

Thanks for posting.

DarthRimbaud
08-24-2017, 11:16 AM
Very happy with the size and design. Almost like a more advanced, streamlined, and slightly smaller than the originally ship. Which makes sense.

Julythrunov
08-24-2017, 11:18 AM
But why no rear landing gear?!?!?

Nighthawk
08-24-2017, 01:45 PM
So for fellow Canadians here, this and the Canto Bight Speeder will be $44.97 each at Walmart.

Batman
08-24-2017, 03:00 PM
But why no rear landing gear?!?!?

Might not have them in the film, just like how the Tie fighters in TFA land on the edge of the wings.

Internets
08-24-2017, 03:08 PM
I'll bet you any money you like they have rear landing gear in the film.

Julythrunov
08-24-2017, 03:34 PM
Might not have them in the film, just like how the Tie fighters in TFA land on the edge of the wings.


Tie fighters landed on their wings in TFA???

Nighthawk
08-24-2017, 03:37 PM
They had docking stations but I believe the point of contact was the wings.

TripleZero78
08-24-2017, 03:52 PM
Hey folks. To further your point on them landing on the wings; during Hux's vehement speech during the assembly on Starkiller base, you'll see Ties lined off free of docking stations. Like wise, you can see two taking off from the same platform as Starkiller Base begins to come apart at the seams.

Batman
08-24-2017, 04:54 PM
They had docking stations but I believe the point of contact was the wings.

During hux's speech and on starkiller base, they were shown landed on the wings and taking off from that position.

Nighthawk
08-24-2017, 05:05 PM
During hux's speech and on starkiller base, they were shown landed on the wings and taking off from that position.

Ahh, forgot about that part. I was only thinking about when they were on the Star Destroyer when Finn and Poe were escaping.

Batman
08-24-2017, 05:16 PM
From the below image, 50 /50 if it has rear landing gear.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yFt1x3bt968/hqdefault.jpg

activistfangirl
08-24-2017, 05:41 PM
sssoooo greatful this review.

The two items I am interested l

Thanks for posting.

Oh no, the figure lies down in the cockpit rather than sits in it! This is the Rogue One U-Wing all over again where the Cassian figure laid down in the cockpit!

Nighthawk
08-24-2017, 08:35 PM
Oh no, the figure lies down in the cockpit rather than sits in it! This is the Rogue One U-Wing all over again where the Cassian figure laid down in the cockpit!

Well, they lie down cause they are 5 POA. If you take the SA Poe, he can be made to look like he's sitting in the XWing.

darthsatan
08-25-2017, 01:03 AM
Yes, that's a weak criticism to be honest. We now know that the toy is a decent size, so the only really bad thing about it is the cheap paint job. Still a pass for me.

Nerdherfer
08-26-2017, 02:29 AM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRrB4s49JndzpjD3tlnGPJez5-dudkMxg4yBHlhtgDJFleO1Lt7I9UCMJY
That's got to be one of the cheapest paint jobs I've seen.. on anything, apart from an old falcon ute I owned once.

Batman
08-26-2017, 03:36 AM
Hmmmm... From the pictures we can also confirm the canopy and it's opening is completely inaccurate.

Deak_Starkiller
08-26-2017, 08:08 AM
From the below image, 50 /50 if it has rear landing gear.



IDK, I personally don't prefer these things being explained away like repulsors or structural integrity fields. Sure, it's fun, but having these being explained in a Art Of, Visual Dictionary and/or Cross-Sections book makes something as rudimentary such as this a lot less tangible IMO.

Batman
08-26-2017, 08:12 AM
IDK, I personally don't prefer these things being explained away like repulsors or structural integrity fields. Sure, it's fun, but having these being explained in a Art Of, Visual Dictionary and/or Cross-Sections book makes something as rudimentary such as this a lot less tangible IMO.

I agree.

It needs landing gear. The ST from original designs right to the cut back on detail of merchandise, is very lazy.

If the cockpit was accurate and it had full landing gear, instant buy.

Now I'm like, meh... Next...

Deak_Starkiller
08-26-2017, 09:38 AM
As a matter of historic perspective, recall how the snowspeeders left Echo Base. In a couple of scenes, they can literally be seen sliding across with the wingtips just inches off the ground. Now the lifesize models didn't have landing gear (except for the toys), so you assume the speeders were of a modest size like the landspeeder that could rely entirely on repulsorlifts even when they were idle.

I just can't say for if repulsor generators to reduce that much engine stress on the back fins of the A-wing is within the Resistances' budget. :P

Masterfett
08-26-2017, 02:28 PM
I'm not fully aware of how it works, but wouldn't anything need some sort of landing gear to rest on? Even with repulsor lifts etc. They cannot be ON all the time, the energy reserves would wear down.

I mean if your car didn't need tires to drive on, would you park it on the ground w/o some kind of barrier between it? of if we ever see the day of mass hover cars, do we just land them on the ground and walk away. Surely there would be some kind of landing gear for it.

Batman
08-26-2017, 02:39 PM
I'm not fully aware of how it works, but wouldn't anything need some sort of landing gear to rest on? Even with repulsor lifts etc. They cannot be ON all the time, the energy reserves would wear down.

I mean if your car didn't need tires to drive on, would you park it on the ground w/o some kind of barrier between it? of if we ever see the day of mass hover cars, do we just land them on the ground and walk away. Surely there would be some kind of landing gear for it.

Luke's speeder?

Speeder bike?

ralltiir
08-26-2017, 02:53 PM
This looks neat enough, though the prominent canopy frame is a head-scratcher for me.

But why didn't they make the McQuarrie version, surely the best in blue and white? Because it's in Rebels and they felt TLJ could not use the same look? Because they thought it didn't fit the tweaks to the design? Because they want to release a blue & white McQuarrie with the original shape later on?

Julythrunov
08-26-2017, 04:24 PM
Hmmmm... From the pictures we can also confirm the canopy and it's opening is completely inaccurate.


I find this weird...why not just do it correctly? Why change it?

Deak_Starkiller
08-26-2017, 05:14 PM
Luke's speeder?

Speeder bike?

Maybe there's some passive materials that are used as anti-gravity magnets that didn't need any type of energy feed on a 24/7 basis. It's really not that far from today's technology.

As far as the A-wing shape, I'm assuming most of room forward of the cockpit is for shield generators (perhaps an improved one from their predecessors) and navigation computers. Again, these don't have astromechs to help with hyperspace jumps. Again, maybe the Cross Sections book will reveal more to it.

Nerdherfer
08-26-2017, 05:44 PM
I'm not fully aware of how it works, but wouldn't anything need some sort of landing gear to rest on? Even with repulsor lifts etc. They cannot be ON all the time, the energy reserves would wear down.

I mean if your car didn't need tires to drive on, would you park it on the ground w/o some kind of barrier between it? of if we ever see the day of mass hover cars, do we just land them on the ground and walk away. Surely there would be some kind of landing gear for it.
I can't quote a source, but most likely wookieepedia, but repulsorlift coils contain "anti matter" that is somehow collected from black holes. These coils, when under the pull of a gravity field, somehow push against it to sustain the same weight of downward gravitational force pushed against them. Or something lime that. But then repulsorlift generators are used to power them up. Maybe like an alternator will power up a car battery and it can sustain itself for long periods without the car running?

My theory is, although starfighters or space ships in general do indeed have repulsorlifts for terrestrial use, their weight is greater than what repulsorlift coils can sustain when landed with the engines shut down. So speeders can sit idle with no landing gear, but space faring vehicles with durasteel plating, heavy ion drive thrusters and hyperdrives etc cannot.

Nerdherfer
08-26-2017, 05:58 PM
RE the above post; That is why I believe the T47 Snowspeeder is capable of at least sub orbital flight. It has ion drive thrusters like starfighters do, when landed it is in contact with the ground, the pilots wear flightsuits with life support respirators and the canopy is very similar to a Y-wing. Think T-16 Skyhopper, Republic gunship and now the TIE Striker; Airspeeders that can go into space if they need to!

Nerdherfer
08-26-2017, 06:57 PM
Just to revisit the repulsorlift thing: If you watch the Crystal Crisis arc from the unfinished episodes of The Clones Wars on Story Reel #3, Obi Wan and Anakin lower the massive crystal onto a "repulsorlift cart", which fails under the weight. Obi Wan remedies the situation by "doubling the output to compensate for the weight", via the contral panel. Anakin remarks the batteries will drain quicker, to which Obi Wan replies "That shouldn't be a problem. We'll be half way to Coruscant before this hovercart runs out of power". So that adds some explanation as to how repulsorlifts are powered and applied in that instance at least. Basically a free standing sled with no engine or power generator.

ralltiir
08-26-2017, 07:27 PM
High performance jet fighters can "zoom climb" to very high altitudes if they pull sharply up at very high speeds. Not suborbital, not space, but nevertheless very very high. Maybe you'd like this as a comparison for your theory. They can't *sustain* that altitude, but they can reach it, kinda like the way a plane can exceed it's normal fastest speed in a dive, assuming its aerostructure is sufficiently robust.

To me speeders are "ground effect" vehicles though, capable of going above this altitude only in the sense that motorcycles can fly. (Atmospheric vehicles like the one introduced in Dark Empire I assume to have a combo of repulsorlifts and exoatmospheric-style propulsion.)

Nerdherfer
08-26-2017, 07:59 PM
To me speeders are "ground effect" vehicles though, capable of going above this altitude only in the sense that motorcycles can fly. (Atmospheric vehicles like the one introduced in Dark Empire I assume to have a combo of repulsorlifts and exoatmospheric-style propulsion.)

I think I understand where you're coming from with that analogy. It's the combination of repulsorlifts and ion thrusters that put those particular vehicles into a different category I for me. The gunship, skyhopper, snowspeeder are essentially running ion thruster engines, similar to starfighters, as opposed to airspeeders which commonly use turbo fans or jets which require atmospheric air to be compressed for propulsion.

As far as I'm aware, the gunship is space capable, however it's capacity to actually reach back into space from the surface may be limited. As in it's a type of drop ship that can make it back to a destroyer as long as the destroyer has dipped back into the atmosphere to pick the gunship up.

The skyhopper and T-47 would probably fit your explanation. As much as I want them to fly around in orbit like a TIE Striker, they probably don't have the systems required for travel beyond sub orbit, but I do believe that's still an open book. For example a basic TIE fighter doesn't appear to have much over them in any regard, aside from proven maneuverability in space.

chaingunsofdoom
08-27-2017, 11:35 PM
Picked this up today (and will hope for a sale at the steep C$45 it is currently priced-at).

I put a few pics on my Twitter, unassembled in the box and assembled. Taille's tiny gun fits inside the cockpit behind the seat... and it's tough to get in there with adult-sized fingers.

Batman
08-28-2017, 02:35 AM
Picked this up today (and will hope for a sale at the steep C$45 it is currently priced-at).

I put a few pics on my Twitter, unassembled in the box and assembled. Taille's tiny gun fits inside the cockpit behind the seat... and it's tough to get in there with adult-sized fingers.

Link to pics?

Julythrunov
08-28-2017, 07:19 AM
I just watched a review of this on YouTube, and while the first loose pics kept me interested, this video is changing my mind. I don't know what this retails for but ...it's sure is minimal. While it's probably close to the length of the original a-wing, it's no where near as robust. I think this is back to being a pass for me.

Maverick10126
08-28-2017, 07:26 AM
I've never been a huge A-wing fan. So this would have to go on extreme clearance for me to consider it. I'm more of an X-wing guy and I passed on tfa due to quality issues.

Deak_Starkiller
08-28-2017, 07:33 AM
I would have expected to see updated TIE Interceptors since they are typically used to go against A-wings, plus A-wings are useful in certain strike missions. While it's nice to see the updated A-wing, I would have preferred something original as far as a new Resistance fighter for a special kind of mission or surgical strike against the First Order.

chaingunsofdoom
08-28-2017, 11:15 AM
My twitter images:

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/901951818854408192

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/901952233838743552

I will try to get a comparison to the ROTJ A-Wing later...

CT1138
08-28-2017, 11:31 AM
Huh, I'd like to see it compared to the RotJ version, but I think I'll end up liking it. Could use a nice dirty wash, though.

Nighthawk
08-28-2017, 01:37 PM
I like it and was on the verge of getting it, but the fact of the matter is I can't justify C$44.97 for this. I'll take my chances and wait for a sale.

jedimasterc
08-28-2017, 01:53 PM
I might wait for clearance for this. I didn't pop on the Rebels A-wing till I found it at Walmart for $15 and then bought a second one for $7. I can't see this being a 30135 dollar item.

Billy_Ray
08-28-2017, 02:04 PM
A 30135 dollar item?

jedimasterc
08-28-2017, 03:15 PM
Sorry 30 dollar item. Dang phone.

chaingunsofdoom
08-28-2017, 05:30 PM
Some pics I put up on Twitter with comparisons:

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/902310500267991040

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/902311117979926528

CT1138
08-29-2017, 07:52 AM
Huh, pretty decent. Still needs to be a little dirtier, though.

Nerdherfer
08-29-2017, 08:53 AM
No rear landing gear is no deal breaker for me. The old model landing gear mechanism was a pain in the fanny anyhow. They essentially just keep the the tail fins up a fanny hair off the ground. The jedi starfighters got by just fine without rear landing gear. Never heard a complaint about those ever. The x-wings are a little different.

CT1138
08-29-2017, 09:08 AM
No rear landing gear is no deal breaker for me. The old model landing gear mechanism was a pain in the fanny anyhow.
Not to mention that every time you knocked the nose, the landing gear collapsed. Pain in the fanny indeed!

Nighthawk
08-29-2017, 10:30 AM
Agreed, no landing gear not a deal breaker. I love how there is no Nerf and the size is bigger than the Hera one. The only deal breaker on this for me at the moment is the cost.

King_Goji
08-29-2017, 12:22 PM
I was actually pleasantly surprised by the price.

Wasn't the Legacy Collection Green Leader A-Wing also $30, back in 2008?
I mean, from 2003 (Saga) to 2008 (TLC) the price of an A-Wing and pilot went up $10 (while using the same vehicle with different paint).
From 2008 to 2017 the price has stayed the same (with a brand new ship).
Granted there was more weathering on the other A-Wings, and the Legacy Collection figure was SA, but for the price to be the same for such a comparable product 9 years later,
not too bad.

Nighthawk
08-29-2017, 12:40 PM
I meant the Canadian price. It's C$44.97 up hear at Walmart. This to me is more a C$29.97 range vehicle (which is what we have to pay for the Vader/Probe Droid and Bala Tik/Rathar sets).

The price disparity between Canada and US is getting ridiculous.

reyandbb8
08-29-2017, 03:40 PM
Some pics I put up on Twitter with comparisons:

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/902310500267991040

https://twitter.com/chaingunsofdoom/status/902311117979926528

Nice! That's the POTF in the comparison, right?

MyenShi
08-29-2017, 04:12 PM
I was actually pleasantly surprised by the price.

Wasn't the Legacy Collection Green Leader A-Wing also $30, back in 2008?
I mean, from 2003 (Saga) to 2008 (TLC) the price of an A-Wing and pilot went up $10 (while using the same vehicle with different paint).
From 2008 to 2017 the price has stayed the same (with a brand new ship).
Granted there was more weathering on the other A-Wings, and the Legacy Collection figure was SA, but for the price to be the same for such a comparable product 9 years later,
not too bad.

Not quite comparable in anything other than overall length. The Legacy Collection A-Wing was pretty much perfect, with a great figure and solid quality. Also it wasn't the same vehicle. It had a very nicely detailed retooled cockpit.

The Resistance A-Wing, though definitely a huge improvement over the Rebels one, is still probably going to feel cheaper in hand.

It has signficantly less overall mass, weathered but minimally painted, a 5POA figure that looks decent but still 5POA, a cockpit designed for 5POA figures, and one landing gear. I mean, really Hasbro? Couldn't include two more landing gear that just manually flip out? And yes, I do believe the Resistance A-Wing in universe probably has rear landing gear as well.

So the better statement would be that they made the overall product cheaper to keep it at a comparable price, a decade later. Which, I suppose, in terms of business is okay. Though I'd personally pay $50 for a properly sized Resistance A-Wing with landing gear, SA figure, and nice paint. But these are toys first and foremost.



Nice! That's the POTF in the comparison, right?

Looks like the improved Legacy version from 2007, but same difference in size as the POTF at least.

chaingunsofdoom
08-29-2017, 07:39 PM
Correct, it's the A-Wing re-release from around 2007/2008-ish or whenever they were released. :)

Masterfett
08-29-2017, 08:31 PM
Yes, it was 2008 TLC line. But Green Leader's (http://www.rebelscum.com/tlcvehAwing.asp) A-Wing was a Walmart Exclusive, and Exclusives usually cost more. @ $29.99

The 2003 Saga (http://www.rebelscum.com/sw03awing.asp) line was the last time an A-Wing was released for $19.99. Oddly it was a Target Exclusive, and much cheaper than the 08 version. So in reality $30 isn't bad today for a ship w/Pilot. Except that they're smaller and no weathering/detail etc.

Nerdherfer
08-29-2017, 08:36 PM
There are a few details in the Resistance A-wing I like. One being the all new sculpt. It has the inverted panel seams that take weathering wash a lot better than the old style moulding process that could not achieved such fine cut lines, but had the piping like protrusion along the panel joints all over the ship. Although there is almost no weathering to speak of on the new ship, there is actually a splash of black carbon /soot on the side intakes which we have never seen before, but is completely screen accurate. I would rather a basically clean vehicle I can weather myself and be proud of that will take wash into the seams, than a factory paint app that consists of several airbrushed "spots" that don't look natural at all, unless we're going for a dalmatian effect. Lastly, I love the fact that there are rear quarter glass windows on the canopy. That tells me this ship is truly following the Macquarrie design aesthetic. Even the old movie A-wings did not have that, so this is definitely an all new ship in the truest sense.

Kylash327
09-01-2017, 12:30 PM
This vehicle is so good. Nothing feels tacked on, even the firing missiles look like normal laser cannons. Pilot fits great, cockpit has cool detail, cockpit stays closed, paint is overall awesome.

CT1138
09-01-2017, 12:44 PM
Loving this A-Wing. Not gonna bother with the Force Link feature, whatever it is, but I love that we have a return to the missile shooters. I couldn't be happier with mine, and will definitely post pics when I get the wash done on it.
http://i.imgur.com/lEt3xZ8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/816U3CV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xS2BEtz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6WzPoln.jpg

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 12:51 PM
Oddly the force link feature for this purpose IS pretty cool. If you wear it on your wrist while holding the a-wing, it continually produces an "engine running" sound, as long as the a wing remains in your hand. If you swoop the ship around it makes various flying, speeding and diving sounds.

I was never a fan of the com tech stuff nor does force link interest me in general, but with the a wing it's actually a nice touch. Well done Hasbro.

Kylash327
09-01-2017, 12:52 PM
Also it helps keep the price of the vehicle down since it doesnt need its own electronics. That seems to be the only reason the Tie Silencer costs more, its got lights and a battery compartment.

Teedo
09-01-2017, 12:57 PM
My problem with the force link is how it will work over time.

1) If you lose your force link band a few years down the road, the electronics on the vehicles won't work at all.
2) Not sure how the chips will age in the figures. I'm the type that always removes batteries from toys to prevent corrosion and damage. Hoping these chips don't have any weird side effects a few decades from now.

darthsatan
09-01-2017, 01:16 PM
You have no idea how much I want one of the MR Stormtrooper rifles! :O

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 01:25 PM
My problem with the force link is how it will work over time.

1) If you lose your force link band a few years down the road, the electronics on the vehicles won't work at all.
2) Not sure how the chips will age in the figures. I'm the type that always removes batteries from toys to prevent corrosion and damage. Hoping these chips don't have any weird side effects a few decades from now.



I can't speak for the other vehicles but just FYI the a wing (and probe droid) do not have any electronic components in them. Nor do the figures. All sounds come from the braclet itself. I suspect that if you submerged the awing in water, then took it out, it would have no impact on the force link sounds.

darthsatan
09-01-2017, 01:27 PM
How do you figure it works then? Is there another way? Surely inductive technology is too expensive? Somebody posted a picture of one of those silly giant backpack accessories all smashed up and it had a small thing it that looked exactly like the business part of a Commtech stand.

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 01:30 PM
Maybe you're right, maybe getting it wet is a bad idea, but my point is, nothing on the ship lights up or makes sounds. It all comes from the force link itself.

darthsatan
09-01-2017, 01:36 PM
Ah, I get you. I will dismantle a TIE when they are cheaper and see if the lights can be rigged up to work easily without the wristband.

Kylash327
09-01-2017, 02:08 PM
https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21227857_509058162779055_653786471622246400_n.jpg

https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21296141_1207255786042743_8491854242087174144_n.jp g

https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21224170_1369156983182239_6845484490303733760_n.jp g

Teedo
09-01-2017, 02:22 PM
Maybe you're right, maybe getting it wet is a bad idea, but my point is, nothing on the ship lights up or makes sounds. It all comes from the force link itself.
Thanks for the info, but it still kind of sucks that if you lose the wrist band, the vehicle sounds (or lights for the other vehicles and playset, not sure) won't work manually.

CT1138
09-01-2017, 03:20 PM
Turns out the A-Wing looks even better with a wash and more weathering:
http://i.imgur.com/8ui8w9e.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UmY9nZu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y8g4n3G.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mw3PJ85.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VmbGhh0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UYfoDiD.jpg

Nighthawk
09-01-2017, 03:22 PM
Looks really nice what you did.

Goldleaderone
09-01-2017, 03:27 PM
Looks really nice what you did.

Agreed. I liked the A-wing more then I thought I would. It's a nice compact vehicle. The one landing gear doesn't bother me really. I'll have to do some weathering to mine as well.

CT1138
09-01-2017, 03:27 PM
Looks really nice what you did.
Thanks! :)

wedgeswingman
09-01-2017, 06:52 PM
Taken straight from McQuarrie. You could probably even use it as the same A-Wing model from REBELS it's so close.

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 07:59 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30408.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30408.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30416.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30416.JPG)

What i have so far...

Masterfett
09-01-2017, 08:15 PM
yes, all sounds come form the bracelet. BUT, you still need something to interact with it. Hence there has to be a "chip" inside the A-Wing to transmit that "it" is an A-Wing and not some random thing. Otherwise how does the bracelet know which sounds to use?

While some think the bracelet is better than having sound inside the ship, I disagree. If there are to be electronics involved, i prefer only one item to be needed for them to work. I can't believe the electronics in the bracelet cost that much, especially with tech these days.

hat said, this ship is growing on me.

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 08:19 PM
Just so you know the force link braclet can make a random sound. I went to go scan my a-wing and instead of a-wing sounds I got "this is where the fun begins" in Anakins/Hayden's voice. It was weird. I tried to make it happen again but wasn't able to. I have no idea why that happened.

Nerdherfer
09-01-2017, 09:59 PM
^^^ could be a force ghost easter egg. :)

I can understand the logic behind this Force Link device. It's considerably cheaper for hasbro to slip in an RF chip and sell the reader itself as a toy. For collectors, they only need to bother with one set of batteries, unless the ship has lights I guess. I'm sure I saw some red light emanating from the cockpit of the TIE Silencer in a TTPM toy review. If only that maniac would hold it still so as to get a decent look. Lights and sounds built into each ship would no doubt push the price up to ridiculous level. For myself it's not a big deal. I can find sound bytes online. Lights on the otherhand are pretty cool for toy pics. I don't think the bracelet will recreate what the Force FX X-wing had in shear awesomeness with all four thrusters glowing purplish pink with that roaring sound, but it might be an honest attempt.

darthsatan
09-02-2017, 02:03 AM
yes, all sounds come form the bracelet. BUT, you still need something to interact with it.

Isn't that precisely what the old Commtech reader was as well? I can't help but suspect that this is largely re-packaged 18 year-old stuff.

Masterfett
09-02-2017, 01:10 PM
Only smaller with Today's tech, right? I mean, why would anyone use 18 year old technology?

Commtech needed the stands to interact with it, Farce Link seem to have small chips inside the figures.(which becomes another customizing issue) But the range seems limited to 6" possibly, based on comments from others.
Also would be an issue if you have more than on figure you're "playing with", how does the bracelt know which figure you want to interact with when 5 of them are standing there?

HappyNoodleBoy
09-02-2017, 02:24 PM
The two Walmarts I went to didnt' have this.
First was picked clean and the second didn't have anything except for those Hot Wheels ships.

Would love to have this, but I don't think I'll pick it up.
No real place to put it and not into ships even though it's cool.
Would REALLY like to have the pilot though.

DarthChevron
09-02-2017, 03:38 PM
In case anyone is interested Revell are doing two kits of the a-wing. One is blue and white and the other is red. They have lights and sound effects.

And they have three landing legs.

Vorax
09-04-2017, 04:51 PM
As a toy its OK, I don't dislike it, but its badly underscaled but not as bad as Poe's X-Wing toy released for the TFA line. Could pass for a A-Wing speeder but not a interstellar starfighter ,lol.

Atari
09-05-2017, 07:10 AM
Other than the non-removable helmet, I like this set.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/GA1A6430.jpg

It won't budge!
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/GA1A6444.jpg

jodo
09-05-2017, 05:04 PM
Found one today!!! By far my favorite sequel vehicle so far!

Batman
09-06-2017, 01:54 PM
It's actually half the size it's meant to be. Massive underscale!

Just watched the review of it's model kit version, of which the ship is almost long as this Hasbro one, but the pilot about a third of the size.

Batman
09-06-2017, 02:00 PM
https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6027/6027614_sd.jpg;maxHeight=1000;maxWidth=1000

Nighthawk
09-06-2017, 02:31 PM
There's also nothing to indicate the Revell model kits are actually to scale though. If Hasbro made the A-Wing true to scale, it'll look weird with the other ships as the X-Wing is under-scaled too so to make a true to scale A-Wing would make the X-Wing tiny.

However, I do think the size of the Revell ones are a bit off. I think the pilot is the wrong size as I think the pilots are supposed to look a little bigger seated in the A-Wing.

Batman
09-06-2017, 02:51 PM
There's also nothing to indicate the Revell model kits are actually to scale though. If Hasbro made the A-Wing true to scale, it'll look weird with the other ships as the X-Wing is under-scaled too so to make a true to scale A-Wing would make the X-Wing tiny.

However, I do think the size of the Revell ones are a bit off. I think the pilot is the wrong size as I think the pilots are supposed to look a little bigger seated in the A-Wing.

ABout the pilot size, actually no if you look at the film's set pictures. It's actually pretty spot on as this awing is certainly broader than it's predecessor.

Nighthawk
09-06-2017, 03:31 PM
Depends on which picture you reference I think. The one I saw seems to show that the pilot is too small in the model kit. But it could just be the angle of the picture.

http://media.comicbook.com/2017/07/star-wars-the-last-jedi-a-wing-2-1010566.jpg

Here's another picture showing how big the pilot should be.

http://noihirek.hu/pictures/celebvonal/mint_ket_gyerek_igy_fenykardozott_harry_es_vilmos_ herceg_2.jpg

MyenShi
09-06-2017, 03:32 PM
There's also nothing to indicate the Revell model kits are actually to scale though. If Hasbro made the A-Wing true to scale, it'll look weird with the other ships as the X-Wing is under-scaled too so to make a true to scale A-Wing would make the X-Wing tiny.

However, I do think the size of the Revell ones are a bit off. I think the pilot is the wrong size as I think the pilots are supposed to look a little bigger seated in the A-Wing.

The Revell snap kits certainly don't come close to kits like Bandai's when it comes to true scale accuracy, but they're still intended to be properly scaled. I put the Resistance A-Wing kit together and it seems about right.

I would rather they just ditch previously made vehicles and keep making vehicles bigger again to scale more properly with figures. Their T-70 X-Wing is tiny and other vehicles shouldn't have to suffer for it. I'm glad the A-Wing is at least bigger than Hera's. They should go back to the "feels right" scale instead of the current "feels cheap" scale.

Nighthawk
09-06-2017, 03:59 PM
Yeah, looking at the pics again, it looks like the Revell one is quite close to scale. What threw me off was the angle, as it made the pilot look like they are sitting really high up.

somelikeithoth
09-06-2017, 04:40 PM
It's actually the same length as the potf a-wing, but is skinnier. Comparing the two, it definitely surfers from a lack of rear landing gear. It looks to low to the ground, like the gear didn't deploy or something.

darthsatan
09-07-2017, 01:08 AM
Ha! That's the future king of Britain sitting inthe cockpit there. Never saw that photo before.

Coreworld
09-07-2017, 02:44 AM
Ha! That's the future king of Britain sitting inthe cockpit there. Never saw that photo before.

Given this weeks revalation, I don't think that ever going to happen.

Coreworld
09-07-2017, 02:46 AM
That's 'revelation', grrr! No edit!

Batman
09-07-2017, 08:15 AM
It's actually the same length as the potf a-wing

In Hasbro scaleless measurements yes, but in 1/1 the new one is much longer from the set pictures.

VideoViper
09-07-2017, 08:59 AM
http://noihirek.hu/pictures/celebvonal/mint_ket_gyerek_igy_fenykardozott_harry_es_vilmos_ herceg_2.jpg

Given the publicity that happened when this photo was taken (Episode 7) I was surprised to hear that they had been denying that the royals had been on set for Episode 8 until Harry finally said "It happened I'm sick of saying it didn't."

I'd be surprised if they didn't do a cameo.

reyandbb8
09-07-2017, 09:58 AM
Given the publicity that happened when this photo was taken (Episode 7) I was surprised to hear that they had been denying that the royals had been on set for Episode 8 until Harry finally said "It happened I'm sick of saying it didn't."

I'd be surprised if they didn't do a cameo.

They do have a cameo. Was confirmed a few weeks ago.

macbeath
09-07-2017, 11:48 AM
Ha! That's the future king of Britain sitting inthe cockpit there. Never saw that photo before.

No - it's his brother.....

darthsatan
09-07-2017, 12:30 PM
LOL same thing :D

jrice73
09-07-2017, 06:55 PM
Went ahead and picked this up today from Target.com along with the Force Link starter set which was on sale. I've always liked the A-Wing so went ahead and took the plunge.

King_Goji
09-08-2017, 04:51 AM
Apparently this is not included in Target's 'spend $50 get a $10 gift card' promo?
I bought the A-Wing and the TIE Silencer, and received no gift card. I checked online and their web store does not have it included with the list of eligible items, and the listing for it didn't have the promo listed on it either. :\

Deak_Starkiller
09-08-2017, 07:52 AM
Hmmm....the TIE silencer IS listed as an eligible item but the A-wing isn't (I have a feeling that's a typo). Even with the TIE alone, you should have gotten it (are they going to haggle over a penny)? In any event, I'm not sure if the promo is prompted automatically at the register, so maybe it's just a matter of reminding the cashier. And even if this turns out to be a technicality, I'd bring this up to the store if it's worth the trouble.

King_Goji
09-08-2017, 08:43 AM
Yeah I was trying to decide if it was worth going back to talk to customer services, or just let it go.
I chose to get them at Target, even though they were slightly cheaper at Walmart, because of the $10 gift card.

But I like the ships, it was only pennies more expensive than Walmart, and I found an Usagi Yojimbo figure for my youngest while I was at Target.
So it was still a good trip, and I went home happy.

RaptorBandito
09-08-2017, 12:25 PM
Yeah I was trying to decide if it was worth going back to talk to customer services, or just let it go.
I chose to get them at Target, even though they were slightly cheaper at Walmart, because of the $10 gift card.

But I like the ships, it was only pennies more expensive than Walmart, and I found an Usagi Yojimbo figure for my youngest while I was at Target.
So it was still a good trip, and I went home happy.

It's definitely eligible. Take your receipt back to target customer service dude, I'm sure they will help you out.

Internets
09-08-2017, 02:49 PM
So about the same size as the potf2 mold...not bad.
But a lot flatter. It probably uses the same amount of plastic as the tiny Rebels one. It's just been flattened and stretched.

Nerdherfer
09-08-2017, 11:06 PM
Lol.. you'd swear she was piloting a gunship here. It looks massive !

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXFRBwdny-JwQW3qqG2Gu-bvyp8SeXf58XyTBaF6wU_FoXxJdGYPT0zTXtpw

But on the other extreme; check mini Kenobi in the Delta-7

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/7/79/Jedi_Starfighter_EpII.png/revision/latest?cb=20150722030412

Nerdherfer
09-08-2017, 11:09 PM
http://www.space.com/images/i/000/065/544/original/Star-Wars-Delta-7.jpg

Nerdherfer
09-08-2017, 11:12 PM
My mistake.. not the other extreme, but the same. Point being the movies and shows that should be reference material get scale wrong also.

Deak_Starkiller
09-08-2017, 11:25 PM
Check out the ILM model pics of the A-wing and you'll definitely see how cramped it is.

Razgriz
09-08-2017, 11:31 PM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/c7/MCQ-awing.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/800?cb=20150622021026 Rebels version kinda goes for both concept and the final compact design.

somelikeithoth
09-08-2017, 11:36 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMAG02542.jpg ('http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMAG02542.jpg')

A panel line wash goes a long way with this little ship. In progress here.

Nerdherfer
09-09-2017, 01:43 AM
Check out the ILM model pics of the A-wing and you'll definitely see how cramped it is.https://image.ibb.co/kBPo6v/Screenshot_2017_09_09_17_07_09_1.png

For sure. Those things really aren't much larger than the landspeeder

Nerdherfer
09-09-2017, 01:46 AM
How they fit a life support, hyperdrive and shield generator in those things is stretching it to the limit.

Nerdherfer
09-09-2017, 01:52 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMAG02542.jpg

A nice subtle wash there somelikeithot! I really like that! Look clean but slightly used.

Deak_Starkiller
09-09-2017, 09:45 AM
How they fit a life support, hyperdrive and shield generator in those things is stretching it to the limit.

The first thing that came into my mind when I saw the pic was, "Where's the astromech?" I figured early on that the hyperdrive computer was integrated into the craft, but probably more effective as a short range strike fighter that don't need the added weight or hyperdrive assistance of an astromech. The new ones probably have a longer range and can fight longer than their predecessors. They're probably just as maneuverable but we haven't seen the equivalent of TIE interceptors in the FO to really go up against these ships yet.

Batman
09-09-2017, 11:07 AM
The first thing that came into my mind when I saw the pic was, "Where's the astromech?" I figured early on that the hyperdrive computer was integrated into the craft, but probably more effective as a short range strike fighter that don't need the added weight or hyperdrive assistance of an astromech. The new ones probably have a longer range and can fight longer than their predecessors. They're probably just as maneuverable but we haven't seen the equivalent of TIE interceptors in the FO to really go up against these ships yet.

The show Rebel messed up that logic. Originally the awing (imo) was the due successor of the xwing and one of the plusses, was the astromic droids functions built inside the ship. But rebels apparently rewrote the line where the awing comes before the xwing.

wedgeswingman
09-09-2017, 12:13 PM
The show Rebel messed up that logic. Originally the awing (imo) was the due successor of the xwing and one of the plusses, was the astromic droids functions built inside the ship. But rebels apparently rewrote the line where the awing comes before the xwing.

The A-Wing seen with Rebels is a bit different from ROTJ, almost exactly like this one since they obviously just took it straight from McQuarrie in both cases. I'm not completely sure but the A-Wings in Rebels are mostly deployed from larger ships so the ones in ROTJ are probably in upgraded version.

Masterfett
09-09-2017, 12:33 PM
The A-Wing, considering no Droid, seems more like TIE Fighters. Thus needing a place to take off and land from, either a planet or ship. So I feel these should have never been able to go to Hyperspace. Thus not needing a Hyperdrive engine. Since there seems to be no room for one or a droid or a nav computer.

This this looks like engines and a Pilot! LOL

Deak_Starkiller
09-09-2017, 12:49 PM
The ROTJ A-wing looks as beat up as the rest of the rebellion fighters so it looks they've got quite a battle history. But I've been under the impression that carrier-based attacks from the Rebellion wasn't their modus operandi as far as surgical strikes go. You take out the carrier and you risk the pilots being taken as casualties or even worse taken as prisoners to dispel sensitive rebel info. Remains to be seen if the Resistance still maintains that train of thought.

somelikeithoth
09-09-2017, 02:22 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMAG02542.jpg

A nice subtle wash there somelikeithot! I really like that! Look clean but slightly used.

Thanks, I'm pretty happy with the way it's turning out, just need to figure out a way to add proper landing gear.