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GNT
02-18-2017, 04:10 PM
There's a new Boba Fett 5POA figure with flame attachment coming, I did read possible 2pack with Han Solo but unconfirmed on that just yet.

R1G4R3PO
02-18-2017, 04:11 PM
was this revealed at toyfair?

RogueKnite
02-18-2017, 04:36 PM
Yep. It was just there, no announcement or anything.

R1G4R3PO
02-18-2017, 04:46 PM
just saw pics here http://news.toyark.com/2017/02/18/toy-fair-2017-hasbro-star-wars-242587

hmmm no announcement, but shown on con floor....reminds me of a certain 2nd utai...lol
han looks like bespin repack

R1G4R3PO
02-18-2017, 05:11 PM
looking at pics again, fett and han are not on a double stand like bistan/scariff#3 and finn/phasma are and they are not standing together which would suggest not a 2pk. What's odd though is han appears to be without a ridiculous accessory which could suggest yes, a 2pk as only one fig in a 2pk usually has that monstrous accessory. Personally, i'd prefer these 2 as a 2pk

Oddball_Fett
02-18-2017, 08:08 PM
5poa Boba with lame accessories?

I'll pass.

JynForce
02-18-2017, 08:36 PM
It looks like he has one of those lovely backpack things, and Han is next to him if you look at the pics. Most likely a 2-pack, and I'm most likely skipping it

Sturm86
02-18-2017, 08:37 PM
Ain't that the same figure they've tried to sell with the armor-up crap in 2015 with TFA packaging?

Espi1001
02-18-2017, 08:39 PM
Not sure if Boba is all new, but I can tell 100% sure the Han Bespin is an all and completely new, including the head, and all the details and texture of his clothes, brand new and better, hope they don't come in a 2 packs

DarthDixie2
02-18-2017, 09:27 PM
Boba and Bespin Han are 100% new sculpts, and more OT 5POA are in the mix, just not revealed, the unplanned exposure of these two are part of the confusion in regards to "what the heck" are we actually showing today, MORE to come before end of convention event cycles.

Billy_Ray
02-18-2017, 11:31 PM
Looks like a pretty good sculpt to me...may just pick this one up:

http://www.rebelscum.com/2017-Toy-Fair/Hasbro-2017-International-Toy-Fair-Star-Wars/Hasbro-2017-International-Toy-Fair-Star-Wars-088.jpg (http://www.rebelscum.com/2017-Toy-Fair/Hasbro-2017-International-Toy-Fair-Star-Wars/image89.asp)

BobaTheFett
02-19-2017, 04:42 AM
It's a great sculpt. However, that backpack and those flame attachments ruin it. It doesn't come with an alternate jetpack either.

One of the cool things about Fett is how compact his weapons are. So let's add big, dumb, bulky accessories! Brilliant!!

Billy_Ray
02-19-2017, 02:51 PM
Do we know that for sure? If not, I have several floating around.

Nicklab
02-19-2017, 06:31 PM
Considering the flamethrower accessory? I think there's a strong possibility that it's going to be in a 2-pack with that Bespin Han Solo.

And was there any sort of large accessory for Han? I didn't see one. And in these Versus 2-packs only one of the characters gets the large accessory.

rnbuda
02-19-2017, 09:00 PM
Figure looks great and it already looks like an improved figure from the last 5POA Fett released.

EmperorPalpitate
02-20-2017, 01:24 AM
Looks to be the best Fett helmet sculpt to date. Shame it's 5POA. I may pick one up loose on ebay someday to cannibalize the helmet for my SA Fett.

Trooper31
02-20-2017, 04:46 AM
Yakface is reporting that this is definitely part of a 2-Pack with Han. Actually, a good choice for a 2-pack.

Nicklab
02-20-2017, 05:38 AM
Yakface is reporting that this is definitely part of a 2-Pack with Han. Actually, a good choice for a 2-pack.

Link? I'm interested in reading their reporting.

Trooper31
02-20-2017, 06:31 AM
Link? I'm interested in reading their reporting.


Sorry, should have posted the link. YAK_Jayson posted in the forums.

http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=146&p=158122&sid=68dc70a05dcd01ff8f9ae9e9990f571e#p158122

THEREISSANOTHER
02-20-2017, 10:35 AM
Looks to be the best Fett helmet sculpt to date. Shame it's 5POA. I may pick one up loose on ebay someday to cannibalize the helmet for my SA Fett.
I totally agree. Best helmet sculpt by far! The overall body proportions seem to be almost movie like! Right down to his stance. Since my beloved super articulated 3.75 line is not what i used it be, Iv'e been collecting the 5 POA for my son and I. It seems that hasbro has struggled w the likeneses of FETT, VADER, and STORMTROOPERS (among others) for TOO long. we finally got an EXCELLENT stormtrooper w the ROGUE ONE line and a much improved Vader as well. I actually prefer to use the Boba Fett from one of the original two 5 poa 3 packs made available. there was the Bespin themed one w Luke, Vader, & Fett. And Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, & Maul. It seemed that Hasbro was testing the waters w these packs at the time. ( I believe it was 2012). I remember the slightly pre posed sculpts were pretty incredible given they were given only 5 POA. The Boba Fett was a little tall, but compared to his successor, FAR SUPERIOR in terms of sheer aesthetics (imho) of course. Now we are getting an ALL NEW Fett and Bespin Han and I for one am elated! Ever since super articulated 3 3/4 collecting has gotten near non existent, I have been ACTIVELY (pay attention HASBRO) pursuing the HOT TOYS 1/6 collection. (This is mostly where my collecting dollars are going). I happen to be an owner of the Hot Toys Deluxe Boba Fett. Of all of the 21 Hot Toys figs I have acquired thus far, I am in least happy w the Boba Fett. Mainly the HELMET SCULPT. Even Hot Toys Ingnored the flared mandible shape of the bounty hunter's helmet.Screen accurate). IN some ways it is one of the most lovingly crafted Boba Fett collectibles ever produced, but I CANNOT believe how far they missed the mark on his helmet design! - Funny how Hasbro NAILED this 4 inch figure head to toe (from whats been shown)! Can't wait to pick this up! (several) to customize my 3 3/4 figures! Kudos on this one Hasbro!

ZiggyStarkiller
02-20-2017, 11:27 AM
I mean of it's 5POA from now on at least they gave him a little personality in his stance. A lot of the the POTF2 stuff was 5POA but sculpted in a way that made their default poses natural. Much prefer it to the characters having straight arms and legs.

Billy_Ray
02-20-2017, 05:26 PM
Here's a better shot of him. You can just see the tip of the missile from his jet pack, so it could be that he comes with his normal jetpack and this other monstrosity fits over that somehow. Really hope he is indeed a two pack with Han as I really would like to get both figures.

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/02/Toy-Fair-2017-Hasbro-Star-Wars-009.jpg

Billy_Ray
02-20-2017, 05:34 PM
I mean of it's 5POA from now on at least they gave him a little personality in his stance. A lot of the the POTF2 stuff was 5POA but sculpted in a way that made their default poses natural. Much prefer it to the characters having straight arms and legs.

I agree, the pose is somewhat reminiscent of this classic promo image:

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx161/AdenSkirata/228237_226409390708100_100000171210781_1076448_790 185_n.jpg

DarthPete
02-20-2017, 05:41 PM
That is a really nice looking sculpt.

Masterfett
02-20-2017, 08:03 PM
Hey, isn't that how they sculpted Juno Eclipse figure?

Strobeeone
02-21-2017, 03:54 AM
Looks to be the best Fett helmet sculpt to date. Shame it's 5POA. I may pick one up loose on ebay someday to cannibalize the helmet for my SA Fett.

As soon as I saw this that was my first thought. The SA Fett with the removable helmet looks a lot better with the SL Rebels 5poa head. This new one looks even better, plus it looks like it has a ball neck. The SL head requires some custom work.

Shots of my Fett head swaps
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08095.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08095.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08134.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08134.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_081211.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_081211.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08889.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08889.JPG)

darth_sidious
02-21-2017, 09:01 AM
Sculpting the figure with that stance is a great idea - similar to what they did with Sabine. Going forward, I hope it continues, as it gives each character a bit more personality.

EmperorOne
02-21-2017, 10:04 AM
As soon as I saw this that was my first thought. The SA Fett with the removable helmet looks a lot better with the SL Rebels 5poa head. This new one looks even better, plus it looks like it has a ball neck. The SL head requires some custom work.

Shots of my Fett head swaps
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08095.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08095.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08134.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08134.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_081211.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_081211.JPG)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_08889.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_08889.JPG)

These look awesome! Are they all VC09? Definitely my favorite Fett body sculpt but I hate the removable helmet. Which helmet did you use, and was there any repainting involved? Thanks for sharing

EmperorOne
02-21-2017, 10:05 AM
As soon as I saw this that was my first thought. The SA Fett with the removable helmet looks a lot better with the SL Rebels 5poa head. This new one looks even better, plus it looks like it has a ball neck. The SL head requires some custom work.
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These look awesome! Are they all VC09? Definitely my favorite Fett body sculpt but I hate the removable helmet. Which helmet did you use, and was there any repainting involved? Thanks for sharing

Billy_Ray
02-21-2017, 11:46 AM
I used the helmet from the Bespin 3-pack figure for mine:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10516.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10497.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10476.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10506.JPG

DarkManX
02-21-2017, 05:05 PM
I never thought I'd like the 5POA figures but man figures like this are why I'm enjoying collecting them now.

Masterfett
02-21-2017, 06:22 PM
Sculpting the figure with that stance is a great idea - similar to what they did with Sabine. Going forward, I hope it continues, as it gives each character a bit more personality.
Yep, makes perfect sense to have a Male character's figure sculpted with a female pose. More please! :P

Joking aside, I do think they need some slight "Action stance" similar to Saga or POTJ. This just standing straight is boring. It annoyed me in the 80's and still does. If we can't get SA, then something needs to be done IMO.

ZiggyStarkiller
02-21-2017, 09:44 PM
Not Saga please. Everybody in Saga looked like they were squatting to take a dump in the woods. POTJ was pretty good though.

Maverick10126
02-21-2017, 11:23 PM
Potj and otc (which was a greatest hits) is where they should shoot for if they aren't doing SA. Just a little bit of expression.

JVM
02-22-2017, 03:10 AM
Boba looks nice... not so excited for that Han. He looks a bit short-legged to me?

bonoferox
02-22-2017, 07:49 AM
Boba looks nice... not so excited for that Han. He looks a bit short-legged to me?

Pretty sure it's the TFA Han with a different jacket vest piece and new head.

dibblerr
02-22-2017, 03:00 PM
Pretty sure it's the TFA Han with a different jacket vest piece and new head.

It looks like that, but not exactly. Just did a quick comparison. The legs have the same stance and most of the folds and wrinkles are the same, but the belt, the straps for the holster and everything above the waist is different. But good eye for noticing the pants ;)

Rezikai
02-22-2017, 03:23 PM
Am I missing something on the Boba? I'm probably going to pass on this one... the color scheme is too chromatic green for my tastes, and "stances" aren't really all that exciting to me.

There's plenty of 5poa Bobas out there, this one has a leg twisted to one side and his torso slightly bent to one side eh.. i guess that's dynamic for a 5POA line *shrugs*. Someone said its the best helmet sculpt they've ever had for him, that may be the only case for me to pick him up as the sculptor understands his visor is a [T] shape.. not a [V] with a line across the top.

Masterfett
02-22-2017, 06:30 PM
Not Saga please. Everybody in Saga looked like they were squatting to take a dump in the woods. POTJ was pretty good though.
Thanks for the detailed visual description! :grin:

OldStarWarsFan
02-23-2017, 09:44 AM
I would assume this is part of a 2 pack with Han Solo. It would kind of go with the "VS" theme that they have used for the Rogue One 2pack lineup. Plus, they almost need 2 more 2 packs to flush out a new wave. I suspect we will see another wave with the upcoming Bistan 2 pack, and this would fit in with that wave. It would be nice if they had one more new 2 pack to flush out a case of 8, but something tells me they'll end up packing the plasma vs finn 2 pack in that wave as well.

Maverick10126
03-02-2017, 11:03 AM
Is there a Han solo thread?? Or are we just talking about him in here.

I'm intrigued by the new Han. I love the previous 5poa bespin Han but I do hate that he can't sit without destroying the belt. I'm hoping this one will be a decent customizing candidate.

Billy_Ray
03-02-2017, 11:44 AM
I don't believe there is a thread for Han, at least I couldn't find one. Rumor is it's a Han/Boba 2-pack anyway, so I guess this as good a place as any to discuss him.

I'm looking forward to this one too and also share your love of the previous figure. I'm not that big on the 5POA figures and usually only get the non-human or armored figures if I do buy any, but that Han figure was great.

Maverick10126
03-02-2017, 02:39 PM
So the new Han definitely looks to be based on TFA digital sculpt. The pants are obviously the same. The arms seem to have the same hand sculpt and are positioned relative to the body in the same way.

I'm actually leaning towards liking this one a little more than the last one. The head once again looks great and it looks like the jacket might be a separate piece. Which would be nice as it'd solve the belt rubbing with the jacket the last one had. The pants aren't as wrinkled which is also nice.

I wonder how well the black series TFA Han arms will swap onto the body....

Billy_Ray
03-03-2017, 09:25 AM
Hmm...doesn't look the same to me:

http://www.rebelscum.com/2017-Toy-Fair/Hasbro-2017-International-Toy-Fair-Star-Wars/Hasbro-2017-International-Toy-Fair-Star-Wars-090.jpg

http://www.rebelscum.com/Hasbro-Star-Wars/Han-Solo-The-Force-Awakens-2016-Hasbro/Han-Solo-The-Force-Awakens-2016-Hasbro-001.jpg

DarkArtist
03-03-2017, 09:32 AM
can't wait for this pack and the Bistan pack to start hitting retail. I want them both.

Maverick10126
03-03-2017, 05:51 PM
Hmm, the pants initially looked the same as TFA but the wrinkles are definitely different. I still wouldn't be surprised if it was the same digital sculpt for the legs.

Wrinkles are easy to change.

Internets
03-03-2017, 06:08 PM
The holster is totally different too. Brand new legs.

DarkManX
03-04-2017, 08:19 PM
Definitely picking this one up. Would be pretty cool if we had a thread about 5POA Versus 2 packs we'd like to see. Maybe something like Bale-Tik VS Chewbacca, Rebels Obi Wan VS Maul, Emperor VS Luke,etc. Most of the 2 packs have been decent so far imo.

JVM
03-06-2017, 02:09 AM
There's a lot of differences, but I would agree it's probably the same digital model. That's not mutually exclusive to all of the parts being different. I kind of preferred the look of the other bespin Han. This one looks a bit wide.


Definitely picking this one up. Would be pretty cool if we had a thread about 5POA Versus 2 packs we'd like to see. Maybe something like Bale-Tik VS Chewbacca, Rebels Obi Wan VS Maul, Emperor VS Luke,etc. Most of the 2 packs have been decent so far imo.
All great ideas. The 2 Packs are easily the best thing to have come out of the switch to 5POA.

Maverick10126
03-06-2017, 05:31 PM
I liked the last bespin Han but for some reason I'm liking this one even more. My interest in star wars figures is pretty low but this Han has my attention. Now if we can just get a farmboy Luke.....

Trooper31
03-10-2017, 01:56 PM
Hmm, the pants initially looked the same as TFA but the wrinkles are definitely different. I still wouldn't be surprised if it was the same digital sculpt for the legs.

Wrinkles are easy to change.


I thought that as well.

R1G4R3PO
03-10-2017, 02:40 PM
^^ all this is assuming released fig is same sculpt as t.v. prototype. To quote South Park.." 'member.." the sa 501st clone for a legends line that was show as one sculpt but released version was diffetent older one? There may been a couple other figs like that but the 502st stands out the most in my memory. Other than vader has the been a result of a recent 5 poa? Vader was only for rebels vs r1 vs esb costume variations

Billy_Ray
03-13-2017, 10:52 AM
What the what? :wtf:

DarkManX
03-13-2017, 04:21 PM
Pants King

Maverick10126
03-14-2017, 10:37 AM
What's really weird is digital sculpts are easy/cheap to make. But the tooling costs the same no matter what. So why all new tooling for Han Bepsin when the old one was pretty good and probably wasn't produced in a super high volume? Seems like a waste to tooling money. Can't help but feel it's decisions like these hurt the product line in other areas.

phasmasboytoy
03-15-2017, 05:16 PM
I'll definitely be picking this up for Fett...wish they utilized contrapposto poses more often for figures at this scale. The Han figure kind of looks like Richard Gere.

BoomTrooper
03-19-2017, 07:55 AM
How well does this fit...does it require any dremeling or anything like that.


I used the helmet from the Bespin 3-pack figure for mine:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10516.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10497.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10476.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10506.JPG

Billy_Ray
03-20-2017, 06:37 AM
The ball joint on the 5POA Boba from the 3-pack is really weird. It's super huge and goes really deep up into the head:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10998.JPG

So what I did was just shave down the head on the TVC Fett and basically turned it into a peg to fit the helmet/head from the 5POA 3-pack figure:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10535.JPG http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_10526.JPG

bonoferox
03-20-2017, 01:25 PM
Nicely done

Masterfett
03-23-2017, 12:08 PM
The ball joint on the 5POA Boba from the 3-pack is really weird. It's super huge and goes really deep up into the head
Sometimes words really weird on the internet.

SGT_A
03-24-2017, 06:56 AM
Sometimes words really weird on the internet.

Damn you no "like" feature! I'm looking forward to this one mainly because I sold my SL Bespin Han a while back and have been regretting it ever since. He's one of the only figures I'm still missing from a complete SL/MS.

Espi1001
03-29-2017, 10:01 AM
this Han Solo is super detail, from his pants and all the texture, to his face. better than the SL Han Solo.

Super_Amigo
03-30-2017, 06:08 AM
this Han Solo is super detail, from his pants and all the texture, to his face. better than the SL Han Solo.

The head, yes. The Saga Legends head, as nice as it is, is too cartoony.

The body is mostly the same, the differences in sculpt are irrelevant

But the legs, I don't think so. Ford's pants in all his movies at that time were a very tight fit, only in specific frames of the movie the pants look like that.

Maverick10126
05-09-2017, 04:34 PM
Any updates on when this is supposed to be released?? And any new on what other OT figs are on the horizon?

Masterfett
05-09-2017, 06:17 PM
Next May, for Han Solo movie? lol

phasmasboytoy
06-03-2017, 01:29 PM
The flame attachment makes me wonder if they'd ever do a Proto Fett variant using this particular figure.

ZiggyStarkiller
06-12-2017, 01:33 AM
The lack of any word on this leads me to believe they might be holding this for Force Friday.

Maverick10126
06-17-2017, 08:52 AM
The lack of any word on this leads me to believe they might be holding this for Force Friday.

Possibly....although the last couple two packs just showed up out of the blue.

R1G4R3PO
06-18-2017, 08:06 PM
if this is to be a ff item, seems odd that it was revealed and then not removed from display at swoc. The mystery of this as well as bistan/shoretroop#3 still remains. So maybe the lack of leaked packaging is reason why bistan set has not been found, ie this set was possibly a wave mate?...LOL in down times like thi,, its fun to speculate...from time to time

DarthPete
07-20-2017, 05:39 AM
Dorky gauntlet accessory aside, this is one nice looking sculpt.

Billy_Ray
07-24-2017, 01:33 PM
They both look good to me:

http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2017/images/sdcc2017-hasbro-starwars-63.jpg

http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2017/images/sdcc2017-hasbro-starwars-65.jpg

SGT_A
07-25-2017, 06:11 AM
Aside from the gimmicks, that's one of the best looking Boba Fett sculpts I've seen. Definite buy.

DarkArtist
07-25-2017, 07:19 AM
Aside from the gimmicks, that's one of the best looking Boba Fett sculpts I've seen. Definite buy.

absolutely agree with you. I can do without the gimmick but he's still a cool figure with them too. I might get a few and make some custom Mando's with the flame attachment gimmicks

RaptorBandito
08-18-2017, 08:52 AM
I manged to find this early yesterday on my lunch hour. There's something a little off about the Han Solo head sculpt but I guess Hasbro never has been able to get those perfect. The Boba Fett figure is awesome though. I really dig the accessory pack. It looks cool when attached and it's not too big, so it's plausible that it would be something Boba could wear and use. The Flame pieces also are removeable from the gauntlets. You can display them with our without, which is nice. There's even a place on the backpack to store Boba's rifle.

Something else interesting, the backpack accessories coming in the 2 packs have there own Force Link chip. Evidently you will get extra sounds when you attach them to a figure and use the Force Link.

If anyone is interested I can take some detailed pics.

Kal_El
08-18-2017, 08:53 AM
I'd like to see some pics!

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Wookieman26
08-18-2017, 01:13 PM
I manged to find this early yesterday on my lunch hour. There's something a little off about the Han Solo head sculpt but I guess Hasbro never has been able to get those perfect. The Boba Fett figure is awesome though. I really dig the accessory pack. It looks cool when attached and it's not too big, so it's plausible that it would be something Boba could wear and use. The Flame pieces also are removeable from the gauntlets. You can display them with our without, which is nice. There's even a place on the backpack to store Boba's rifle.

Something else interesting, the backpack accessories coming in the 2 packs have there own Force Link chip. Evidently you will get extra sounds when you attach them to a figure and use the Force Link.

If anyone is interested I can take some detailed pics.

The problem with Han is that they just repainted the TFA old man Han and just gave him a new jacket shell. Lazy retool. :(


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Idpullthecurtain
08-19-2017, 04:33 AM
the Han is terrible, and an inexplicable choice when you consider they just did the perfect Han Bespin in 5POA, so why not repack that? The Fett looks good, it looks similar to the Multipack version from about 5 years ago that was amazing and had that incredible helmet sculpt. I would have loved this to have been a ROTJ version this time. Shame it isn't.

2 poor choices Hasbro when obvious better choices were so simple.

Deak_Starkiller
08-19-2017, 07:11 AM
The problem with Han is that they just repainted the TFA old man Han and just gave him a new jacket shell. Lazy retool. :(



And not an unprecedented problem unfortunately.
Here's a post made 10 years about regarding the Saga Kashyyyk trooper. (And I swear to you that was my evil brother Annikin posing as me having a MAJOR gripe about that figure) :P


Hasbro simply wanted to issue another clone variant before year's end, and Elite Clone just happen to be on the hit list. The unfortunate aspect (if you can coin it that way) is that it happen to fall in the repaint/reissue category of the final 22 (just like the final 12 for ROTS).

Did we (the collectors) really really want it.....no (not really) if you think about for the reason stated above. Did Hasbro want to cash in on an existing mold for the sake of satifying collectors who were yearing for a prominent clone variant in the movie....definitely yes.

Collectors are still taking about corrections needing to be made on figures over 10 years later. This one is definitely going to stay on top until the Hasbro dished it out in the correct form. If Hasbro doesn't want to go with the single carded approach, fine...then a battlepack with a couple of the correct troopers to make both camps happy. At least that would be win-win situation for both Hasbro and the collecting community. \

Since then brother Annikin has forgiven Hasbro for making the correction the following year. Ok Hasbro, the stopwatch's begun ticking... Don't send my beloved brother down the Darkside again! :D

reyandbb8
08-19-2017, 03:00 PM
Here is Boba and Han packaged:

http://i.imgur.com/SyO8MJ9.jpg

DarthPete
08-19-2017, 03:56 PM
I love the broadness of that Fett head sculpt.

Deak_Starkiller
08-19-2017, 09:46 PM
Hasbro can take off 30 years w/o cosmetic surgery. Impressive....most impressive.

RaptorBandito
08-20-2017, 01:25 AM
The problem with Han is that they just repainted the TFA old man Han and just gave him a new jacket shell. Lazy retool. :(


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I just compared the 2, and it's actually not. It's a completely new sculpted figure. I added the Vintage Collection Bespin Han head to it and I think it looks much better. Right now I'm just using sticky tack since the Vintage one has a larger socket. I'll need to figure out a more complete way to add some mass to the ball neck post. Anyone have suggestions? I really don't have much experience customizing.

Wookieman26
08-20-2017, 03:23 AM
I just compared the 2, and it's actually not. It's a completely new sculpted figure. I added the Vintage Collection Bespin Han head to it and I think it looks much better. Right now I'm just using sticky tack since the Vintage one has a larger socket. I'll need to figure out a more complete way to add some mass to the ball neck post. Anyone have suggestions? I really don't have much experience customizing.

I don't think it's great to take customizing advice from me lol. Last time I tried to do a custom, I ended up destroying 2 Stormtrooper figures! I'm sure there's lots of people on here who could help you with that type of advice. Good luck, and hopefully you can find a solution. :)

Deak_Starkiller
08-20-2017, 10:13 AM
I can't tell if there are side pockets on the jacket arms or if they're really molded onto there.

RaptorBandito
08-20-2017, 12:08 PM
I can't tell if there are side pockets on the jacket arms or if they're really molded onto there.

There's a little side pocket molded onto the left arm. I'm not familiar enough with the details of the actual costume to tell how accurate it is.

Deak_Starkiller
08-20-2017, 01:05 PM
I stand a bit corrected....there's suppose to be a side pocket on the right side of the jacket (his left). It looks like there's cuffs on the jacket...the actual jacket is cuff-less.

Billy_Ray
08-21-2017, 07:02 AM
I just compared the 2, and it's actually not. It's a completely new sculpted figure. I added the Vintage Collection Bespin Han head to it and I think it looks much better. Right now I'm just using sticky tack since the Vintage one has a larger socket. I'll need to figure out a more complete way to add some mass to the ball neck post. Anyone have suggestions? I really don't have much experience customizing.

Yeah, it's not a simple repaint of TFA Han earlier in the thread, but I guess some folks can't see it. Thanks or posting the pics, I'm looking forward to this set.

jedimasterc
08-21-2017, 03:10 PM
Saw the 2 pack this morning as well. I do like the Han figure though I already have the same Boba fett.

Billy_Ray
08-22-2017, 06:15 AM
GNT, any way we can get this thread moved to the TLJ section where it belongs?

Idpullthecurtain
08-22-2017, 08:50 AM
Saw the 2 pack this morning as well. I do like the Han figure though I already have the same Boba fett.
this Fett is a new sculpt isn't it?

Billy_Ray
08-22-2017, 09:01 AM
Pretty sure it is. Doesn't look like either the Saga Legends Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Hasbro-Star-Wars/saga-legends-2013/Figures/SL09-Boba-Fett.asp)or the Bespin Battle Pack Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Bespin_Battle_Hasbro_Star_Wars_Battle_Pack.asp). Is there another 5POA Fett?

Idpullthecurtain
08-22-2017, 12:21 PM
Pretty sure it is. Doesn't look like either the Saga Legends Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Hasbro-Star-Wars/saga-legends-2013/Figures/SL09-Boba-Fett.asp)or the Bespin Battle Pack Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Bespin_Battle_Hasbro_Star_Wars_Battle_Pack.asp). Is there another 5POA Fett?
that's what I thought too. I'm almost certain it's all new.

jedimasterc
08-22-2017, 03:55 PM
Pretty sure it is. Doesn't look like either the Saga Legends Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Hasbro-Star-Wars/saga-legends-2013/Figures/SL09-Boba-Fett.asp)or the Bespin Battle Pack Fett (http://www.rebelscum.com/Bespin_Battle_Hasbro_Star_Wars_Battle_Pack.asp). Is there another 5POA Fett?

Ok, good to know.

Strobeeone
08-24-2017, 04:36 PM
I added the Vintage Collection Bespin Han head to it and I think it looks much better. Right now I'm just using sticky tack since the Vintage one has a larger socket. I'll need to figure out a more complete way to add some mass to the ball neck post. Anyone have suggestions? I really don't have much experience customizing.

There are several things that work well, but here are 2 that work and are fairly inexpensive

1 - Easy to do - Heat shrink tubing (used to cover spliced wiring etc) can be found at WM, electronic & auto parts stores,
hobby shops. Very cheap, cut small piece to go over the neckball, heat it up & it shrinks to wrap around it.
1 or 2 pieces generally does the job, just cut it so it doesn't cover lower kneck.

2 - Fairly Easy - Aves Apoxie Sculpt (https://www.avesstudio.com/shop/apoxie-sculpt/) inexpensive, VERY easy to work
with and EXTREMELY durable once sets (cured). It bonds to the figures incredibly well and can be shaped
easily with plenty of time before it sets. Once it does it can be sanded & painted if needed. It also is
available in multiple colors.

Maverick10126
08-24-2017, 06:48 PM
Easier....hot glue....it doesn't bond. Just forms a perfect layer. Best news is if you mess up just remove it and try again.

Kal_El
08-24-2017, 06:50 PM
Hot glue is amazing for jobs like this.

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Maverick10126
08-24-2017, 07:23 PM
Anyone else think this han head looks similar to the saga carbonite han head?

Julythrunov
08-26-2017, 01:49 PM
New sculpts. Digitally sculpted in zbrush. Tons of tiny detail. http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30098.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30098.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30126.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30126.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30158.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30158.JPG)

DarthPete
08-26-2017, 05:03 PM
*whistles* That Fett is a thing of beauty.

Maverick10126
08-26-2017, 10:01 PM
Saw this pack at WM, fett looks amazing. Han...great except the paint on the head. There's a good sculpt under those wonky eyes. Looking forward to picking these up.

Masterfett
08-26-2017, 10:47 PM
Fett ain't too bad. But Han, fugly. I don't know if it's the photo, lighting or the figure, but the face sculpt is crap. And his torso look fat.

Julythrunov
08-26-2017, 11:30 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30133.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30133.JPG)

The torso is thin

Idpullthecurtain
08-27-2017, 12:28 AM
Saw this pack at WM, fett looks amazing. Han...great except the paint on the head. There's a good sculpt under those wonky eyes. Looking forward to picking these up.
Agreed. Fett looks awesome! :)

Idpullthecurtain
08-27-2017, 12:55 AM
The Bespin Battle pack was the best Fett to date. This looks better, the worst thing about the Bespin Battle Fett was the odd stance and posture. I would love to see it adapted for a ROTJ version too.

Masterfett
08-27-2017, 11:31 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30133.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30133.JPG)

The torso is thin
Not bad there. But the previous pic seemed wider, must be the jacket throwing off the dimensions.

Coreworld
08-27-2017, 03:43 PM
New sculpts. Digitally sculpted in zbrush. Tons of tiny detail. http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30098.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30098.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30126.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30126.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30158.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30158.JPG)

Julythrunov, a couple of quick question, does Fett's hip-pouches hinder his leg articulation and is his cape/Wookiee braids removable?

Julythrunov
08-27-2017, 05:21 PM
Coreworld ,

Usually I'm happy to post pics, reviews and answer questions about stuff I find as soon as I get it. I got attacked by several members of this forum for posting this figure and explaining how I got it earlier that Force Friday. I got accused of trying to steal $4.00, and a host of other crazy accusations(Masterfett is one of them as he is attacking me in one thread for buying this two pack, but enjoying the pics and info about it in this thread). From now on I'm not going to post any info about what I find, pics, etc. I'll leave that to the rest of the people here. If you have a question about the figure I'd be happy answer them in a private message.

Trooper31
08-28-2017, 07:04 AM
That Fett looks really well done.

Maverick10126
08-28-2017, 09:53 AM
I plan on popping the 300th fig fett arms on this fett body. Maybe the votc legs as well.

Han I'm going to see if the TFA arms match up decently. I still need to figure out a good material for a socket for ball joint shoulders. Maybe a piece of drip line? Anyone have any suggestions?

DarkManX
08-28-2017, 12:05 PM
Looks decent but towards the bottom of my TLJ want list.

Masterfett
08-28-2017, 06:06 PM
You call my comment an attack on you?

That's rich. :rolleyes:

P.S.
If I actually attacked you, you'd now it. Just ask somebody.

DarkManX
08-28-2017, 06:38 PM
You call my comment an attack on you?

That's rich. :rolleyes:

P.S.
If I actually attacked you, you'd now it. Just ask somebody.

He's just dancing around

Julythrunov
08-29-2017, 06:36 AM
You call my comment an attack on you?

That's rich. :rolleyes:

P.S.
If I actually attacked you, you'd now it. Just ask somebody.



Not defending him or the action, but it wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened. I've read posts from other members who've done the same thing.

We are all Collectors, who should obviously know by now how much the figures we collect cost. Despite the price discrepancies between Target, TRU, Walmart etc.
So to give an incorrect price claiming ignorance seems far fetched to me. But whatever, who really cares. Walmart doesn't seem to.



Your second paragraph seems to.

P.S.

If you attacked me, I'd know it? THATS Rich.:rolleyes:

Julythrunov
08-29-2017, 06:39 AM
He's just dancing around

Still following from thread to thread. Didn't you say you weren't very interested in this 2 pack? What are you doing here?

DarkManX
08-29-2017, 08:38 AM
Still following from thread to thread. Didn't you say you weren't very interested in this 2 pack? What are you doing here?


I said it's at the bottom of my FF list, I didn't say I wasn't interested. I'll be purchasing it (not stealing it like you bragged about doing).

DarthPete
08-29-2017, 09:06 AM
I'd hardly call MasterFett's second paragraph an attack...

DarkManX
08-29-2017, 09:29 AM
I'd hardly call MasterFett's second paragraph an attack...

Pretty much.

Julythrunov
08-29-2017, 09:59 AM
I'd hardly call MasterFett's second paragraph an attack...


Oh, well that changes everything!

DarthPete
08-29-2017, 10:04 AM
Oh, well that changes everything!
I'm always happy to help.

Billy_Ray
08-29-2017, 01:47 PM
C'mon guys, take it outside! ;)

I don't always agree with everything July says but I have to say, calling him a thief over this is pretty off the mark. TBH, I wouldn't know how much these two packs cost at any given store. I've had the same thing happen to me at Walmart where the cashier has asked me how much something was. I try my best to be accurate, like "I don't know, 12 something" and they'll just charge me $12 even. I usually offer to go check, but they hardly ever seem to care. It's really their fault, they should do a price check, but if they are too lazy to do so what are you gonna do?

Anyway, I'm not big on 5POA figures, but this set looks pretty nice. Boba Fett seems especially awesome and the Han looks decent. Definitely on my FF radar.

DarkManX
08-29-2017, 02:52 PM
C'mon guys, take it outside! ;)

I don't always agree with everything July says but I have to say, calling him a thief over this is pretty off the mark. TBH, I wouldn't know how much these two packs cost at any given store. I've had the same thing happen to me at Walmart where the cashier has asked me how much something was. I try my best to be accurate, like "I don't know, 12 something" and they'll just charge me $12 even. I usually offer to go check, but they hardly ever seem to care. It's really their fault, they should do a price check, but if they are too lazy to do so what are you gonna do?

Anyway, I'm not big on 5POA figures, but this set looks pretty nice. Boba Fett seems especially awesome and the Han looks decent. Definitely on my FF radar.

Not off the mark at all. He lied to the employee about the price and then came on here to brag about stealing toys and telling people how they can cheat the system. He can claim whatever he wants to but when you strip everything away he's just a liar and a thief that gives collectors a bad name. The hilarious thing is he apparently needed "5POA crap" so badly that he had to steal it. I could be wrong though, he may have really needed those four dollar bills to work his way through med school.

Billy_Ray
08-29-2017, 03:20 PM
Well, not really my fight to fight. I've never met July, so I can't make leaps of judgment and say he is or isn't a liar or a thief. Like I said, I have no idea how much these two packs go for. I've only purchased a couple and the last one I bought was Baze/Stormtrooper like a year ago. I would have to guess they are around $12-$15. But if I found them in the clearance aisle (which I believe was the case here) and the shelf they were on was marked a certain price, I would tell them that price because that's what they are marked as.

I ran into this same thing with the Rogue One Black Series figures. Not only did Walmart let me buy them early (no trickery or deception on my part, they rang up) but they rang up at the clearance price at the time. Some folks here took issue with that and said similar things to me (and others) about being a thief.

If Walmart employees can't be bothered to do their job properly or just don't care that's on them. If something doesn't ring up, they should ask for a price check, not ask the customer what the price is. Now if July had said something ridiculous, like $1.99, then yeah...that's maybe thievery or and clearly lying, because I'm pretty sure he knows that is not the price, but even so it's still Walmart's fault.

Anyway, definitely don't want to get in the middle of anyone's *****ing contest, but that's my two cents. The big question I have is why is this thread STILL in the Rogue One section when it should be in the TLF section?

Billy_Ray
08-29-2017, 03:23 PM
TLJ section...curse the lack of the edit feature!

Prequellover
08-29-2017, 03:56 PM
I don't collect 5POA but I really want Fett, will probably pick it up

Julythrunov
08-29-2017, 05:27 PM
Billy_Ray thanks I appreciate the thought. Not to drag you into this but I ended up paying $13.00 even.

This person is using a toy to attack me(and was calling me an a-hole, in another thread we'll before the this toy "scandal":rolleyes:) . A few "group" thinkers joined in. While you may not agree with everything I say, I can respect the fact that you admitted that but also departed from the absurd witch hunt.


$13.00

bigbarada
08-29-2017, 09:36 PM
New sculpts. Digitally sculpted in zbrush. Tons of tiny detail. http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30098.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30098.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30126.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30126.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30158.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30158.JPG)

That Boba Fett looks much better than I had hoped for. The Han Solo leaves a lot to be desired, though. It almost looks like it's based on the same digital sculpt from the TFA Han Solo. The 2015 Saga Legends Bespin Han looks way better. Either way, this set is all about Boba Fett for me and I hope to be able to pick one up on Friday.

jediblood
08-30-2017, 08:22 AM
Not off the mark at all. He lied to the employee about the price and then came on here to brag about stealing toys and telling people how they can cheat the system. He can claim whatever he wants to but when you strip everything away he's just a liar and a thief that gives collectors a bad name. The hilarious thing is he apparently needed "5POA crap" so badly that he had to steal it. I could be wrong though, he may have really needed those four dollar bills to work his way through med school.

Who the heck cares? Move on, I know I'm still able to sleep at night after the '"tragedy".

Bo_Chooda
09-01-2017, 02:28 AM
I was planning to get this tonight and saw a ton of them, but passed because every single Han looked terrible. I can't begin to judge that sculpt with such bad paint apps...:disgusted:

Maverick10126
09-01-2017, 07:45 AM
Picked up one with the best paint apps on Han, still has a wonky eye. The sculpt is solid I just need to clean up that left eye.

Kylash327
09-01-2017, 09:59 AM
Having a hard time getting Boba to stand... they gave him this spread leg stance.

Also a huge missed opportunity with the flames pieces. They have little pegs and can come out of the gauntlets, and i assumed you could them pop them into the jetpack thrusters, but no holes for them.

DarthPete
09-01-2017, 10:24 AM
Yeah I'm also having trouble getting Boba Fett to stand without a stand, and even with one I've got to kind of kick his right leg back a little, but man what a great looking sculpt; albeit it probably wouldn't have killed them to toss a little paint on his jetpack. Han is nice detail wise I guess, but he looks kind of hunchbacked or like his shoulders are too high.

Teedo
09-01-2017, 11:24 AM
As others have said, this Han is very similar to the 5POA Force Awakens Han. As such, he looks much better with his head pulled up slightly (adding some hot glue to the ball is helpful). Not so hunchbacked anymore.

Maverick10126
09-01-2017, 11:47 AM
At least this han has better designed legs. The SL han had a collision with the belt and hip joint turning him into a 3poa figure.

I was thinking of reworking the arms on this figure but now I'm not so sure. He looks pretty good as is.

Kylash327
09-01-2017, 12:16 PM
Yeah Han's proportions are a little too "old man Han" for a Bespin Han. in particular his torso seems a little large or something and he has the baggy pants.

Teedo
09-01-2017, 12:45 PM
Has anyone tried the SL Mission Series head on this figure?

Maverick10126
09-01-2017, 12:49 PM
I'm going to try the 06 saga han carbonite head, just to see if it works.

Teedo
09-01-2017, 12:53 PM
Awesome, I'd like to see that. Can't think of too many "great" Han headsculpts. Any other ideas?

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 01:17 PM
Has anyone tried the SL Mission Series head on this figure?

Are you talking about the previous 5poa bespin han head? If so just know that is a swivel head and this new Bespin han head is a ball joint. You could of course Dremel the SL head out, which is what you'd need to do to put the head on this new body.

darthsatan
09-01-2017, 01:18 PM
That Boba makes lovely display piece. It really is awesome (coming from someone whose go-to Fett is still the 300th edition).

Han can easily go in the plastic recycling where he belongs.

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 01:28 PM
I'm sorry but the han is getting a bad wrap. It an under appreciated figure. Wait until it's in hand. While a person may have no need or desire for another 5poa Bespin han, the sculpt alone is outstanding.

darthsatan
09-01-2017, 01:34 PM
it's 40" waist Han :D

Maverick10126
09-01-2017, 01:44 PM
This han is actually a really great sculpt. I agree. And if anyone is skilled with a paint brush they can clean up the wonky paint. He's just like the Luke X-wing 5poa, great head but hidden under awful paint.

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 01:53 PM
it's 40" waist Han :D


http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30133.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30133.JPG)

bigbarada
09-01-2017, 02:25 PM
This actually ended up being the only item I picked up on Force Friday. I also wanted to get the Probe Droid, but we only got one case of those in and the single packed Droid/Vader set was gone before I clocked out for the night (I really don't understand why the Rathtar was packed three per case. Even as someone who still likes TFA, I consider that sequence to be the weakest in the entire film).

Anyway, Boba Fett looks amazing, even though I'm also having some trouble getting my figure to stand without assitance. The lack of paint on the jetpack is actually pretty accurate for his ESB outfit. I would consider this to be the best Boba Fett figure made in the modern line.

All of the Han Solos looked terrible from the single case that our store received, but I had very low expectations for this figure based on the photos I've seen. The 2015 Saga Legends Bespin Han is still the best modern version of Han in this outfit. I don't know if a new paint job could fix this new version, because his overall proportions and headsculpt seem all wrong for ESB. This definitely looks like a TFA Han retooled as an ESB Han.

Teedo
09-01-2017, 02:27 PM
Are you talking about the previous 5poa bespin han head? If so just know that is a swivel head and this new Bespin han head is a ball joint. You could of course Dremel the SL head out, which is what you'd need to do to put the head on this new body.

I meant the Ep. IV Han that came in the Force Awakens 2-pack with Leia (not sure if it had a different head sculpt). If it is also a swivel then nevermind. Thanks for the heads up!

Julythrunov
09-01-2017, 08:06 PM
I just want to emphasize, this Han Solo is most certainly not a repaint of TFA Han.

Maverick10126
09-01-2017, 08:38 PM
I meant the Ep. IV Han that came in the Force Awakens 2-pack with Leia (not sure if it had a different head sculpt). If it is also a swivel then nevermind. Thanks for the heads up!

That's the mission series Han. Yes it had a swivel. You want to know what was a surprisingly good han head sculpt. Tvc echo base han. Really under rated. I wish I still had it.

bigbarada
09-02-2017, 03:32 AM
I just want to emphasize, this Han Solo is most certainly not a repaint of TFA Han.

Definitely not a repaint, but a digital resculpt using the TFA Han as a base. Kind of like when a comic book artist traces another artist's work and tries to change the drawing enough so that it doesn't look like he traced it; but you can still totally tell that he traced it.

Julythrunov
09-02-2017, 07:48 AM
Definitely not a repaint, but a digital resculpt using the TFA Han as a base. Kind of like when a comic book artist traces another artist's work and tries to change the drawing enough so that it doesn't look like he traced it; but you can still totally tell that he traced it.


The only similarity between TFA Han and this Bespin Han with regard to retooling is, they have similar folds on the back of the jacket sleeves. Nothing else matches up with the TFA, and this one. Not even the boots. Or the stance. Nothing. I'm not sure your traced comic book analogy works here because these two figures have nothing in common, beyond the back of the sleeve, and the likelihood that they were both sculpted in zbrush.

As for the SL Han, that has a very cartoon/ comic book like sculpt in its likeness, proportions, and stance in my opinion. Much like the tie striker pilot. SL Han looks superhero-like because it's idealized.

Maverick10126
09-02-2017, 08:15 AM
I tried the saga carbonite head on this body and it doesn't fit. The head sits too low. Actually the current head sits too low as well. That dab of hot glue someone suggested might be in order.

I'm in the minority here it seems like but this figure has me ready to put my SL han up for sale.

DarthPete
09-02-2017, 08:37 AM
A couple comparison shots with the previous 5POA Fett. Old man Luke may be my most wanted/favorite figure from this year so far, but this Fett is by far the best figure and the one I gush over the most..

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_29046.JPG

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_29052.JPG

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_29065.JPG

SGT_A
09-02-2017, 12:06 PM
This is my favorite figure to come out of FFII. I'm blown away by how amazing he looks.

Masterfett
09-02-2017, 12:20 PM
Nice details for sure. But can the figure hold his rifle in both hands like Fett does on screen?

Maverick10126
09-02-2017, 12:23 PM
Nice details for sure. But can the figure hold his rifle in both hands like Fett does on screen?

Mine will when I'm done with it :)

kyboliciousfett
09-02-2017, 12:45 PM
I concur with those who praise this Fett as being the surprise hit of the FFII offerings. After, finally,getting him in hand, i can safely say hes at least tied with my VTC Boba as my favorite figure of him. Theres something about this one ,be it stance or paint app/details,that makes me feel the nostalgia of the vintage figure combined with the advanced modern sculpting i would have only wished for as a kid playing in 1982. Its the best of both worlds to me. Vintage 5 poa simplicity with modern sensibilities. For super articulation, i got my VTC to cover that.

Kylash327
09-02-2017, 04:01 PM
Just look at the stance, they even got that sassy hip tilt in there, amazing.

bigbarada
09-02-2017, 06:58 PM
The only similarity between TFA Han and this Bespin Han with regard to retooling is, they have similar folds on the back of the jacket sleeves. Nothing else matches up with the TFA, and this one. Not even the boots. Or the stance. Nothing. I'm not sure your traced comic book analogy works here because these two figures have nothing in common, beyond the back of the sleeve, and the likelihood that they were both sculpted in zbrush.

Well, of course all of the details are going to be different, but that doesn't change the fact that the proportions (size of the head, arms, legs, torso, shoulders, hips, etc. in relation to each other) are all very similar on both figures. I don't actually own the TFA Han, because I never actually saw one in the store that I considered acceptable to buy; so I have to rely on the photos in the archive here. However, holding the 2017 figure up to the photo of the TFA Han, the proportional similarities are unmistakable.

So, they may not be using the TFA Han Solo specifically as the base for this new figure, but it definitely looks like both figures might have been based on the same digital scan of Harrison Ford. And, while the figure's proportions might be correct for Harrison Ford now that he is nearly 70, they are not correct for the actor when he was in his 30s.


As for the SL Han, that has a very cartoon/ comic book like sculpt in its likeness, proportions, and stance in my opinion. Much like the tie striker pilot. SL Han looks superhero-like because it's idealized.

Other than the wide stance, the Saga Legends Han doesn't feel overly stylized to me at all. If it is, then it must be stylized in a way that my eyes agree with, so I don't see it. Looking at both Bespin Han figures together and trying to be as forgiving as I can with the paint apps, I still prefer the 2015 figure.

Julythrunov
09-02-2017, 07:02 PM
What specifically on the this figure, do you feel is inaccurate or inappropriate for han/ford in his 30's?

lordtyrannus
09-02-2017, 07:11 PM
This Boba is (as painful as it is to admit for SA fans, myself included) one of the best sculpts they've ever done. I gave it a few quick paint updates and am thrilled with the figure. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170903/1c605b0d26b933ab5d194484e3b79f83.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170903/8e7acfb10b849121d56103944d605dd1.jpg


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bigbarada
09-02-2017, 07:17 PM
What specifically on the this figure, do you feel is inaccurate or inappropriate for han/ford in his 30's?

Well, primarily his head is just too small and his neck is too short. Outside of that, it's just little things that seem off compared to the photos I've seen of Han Solo from ESB. Mostly the thickness of his torso in relation to his limbs. They definitely feel like "old man" proportions to me. Because a man's muscle mass begins declining when he's in his 40s and the body starts packing on weight around the midsection. Only guys would spend their entire lives practically living in a gym can really avoid it, but it still starts to show little by little. The differences might be tiny, measured in fractions of millimeters on a toy this size, but sometimes that's all you need to throw everything off.

That being said, I think a completely new, larger head sculpt and a longer neck would do wonders for improving this figure.

bigbarada
09-02-2017, 07:19 PM
When it comes to the Boba Fett, there really isn't much more that I can add that hasn't already been said, but I do think it's cool how they managed to sculpt the belt, pouches, Wookiee scalps, and cape all as one solid piece that Boba almost wears like a backpack. A really impressive bit of engineering there.

Julythrunov
09-02-2017, 07:42 PM
Him...that's interesting, the exact opposite appears to be true with regard to the midsection if you look under the jacket.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_30133.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_30133.JPG)

About the head...while it may or may not be true that the figure could benefit from a larger head or different neck etc, Im not sure how this relates to a man in his 30's.

Julythrunov
09-02-2017, 07:49 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_3052.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_3052.PNG)

The post 40 stuff you're talking about might be evident on TFA sculpt but it's not on this Bespin han sculpt. I have to ask, do you own this Bespin han?

Maverick10126
09-02-2017, 08:01 PM
This Han is definitely thin. I don't know what people are talking about with the waist. He's as thin as any other bespin han

Maverick10126
09-02-2017, 08:16 PM
The short neck makes him look hunched. If you pull his head up just a bit he looks a lot better.

darthsatan
09-03-2017, 01:55 AM
This Han is definitely thin. I don't know what people are talking about with the waist. He's as thin as any other bespin han

It's the difference between the jacket piece being on or off. To be fair though, nobody is going to display him waiscoat-style, are they?

Julythrunov
09-03-2017, 08:12 AM
Does anyone realistically expect the figure to not look bulkier with a jacket on? Give me a break :rolleyes:.

The figure isn't even remotely "thick in the mid section. He looks like he's wearing a jacket...as he should.

Kylash327
09-03-2017, 08:48 AM
Love that the pose on this Fett comes directly from this original promo shot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIzpebcXYAAJOhR?format=jpg&name=large

https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/1/1c/BobaFett.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111115042546

phasmasboytoy
09-03-2017, 09:42 AM
That new Fett is glorious! Almost makes me regret that I stopped collecting in this scale.

Maverick10126
09-03-2017, 09:53 AM
Han bespin is once again the most controversial figure! Has there ever been a han bespin that wasn't???

Coreworld
09-03-2017, 09:58 AM
That new Fett is glorious! Almost makes me regret that I stopped collecting in this scale.

Join us, the dark side beckons....

Julythrunov
09-03-2017, 09:58 AM
That new Fett is glorious! Almost makes me regret that I stopped collecting in this scale.

You stopped collecting this scale? (Presumably for the 6").

I'm sorry to hear that.....and.....May God have mercy on your soul....

Coreworld
09-03-2017, 10:00 AM
Han bespin is once again the most controversial figure! Has there ever been a han bespin that wasn't???

I think Saga Legends Bespin Han got by relatively unscathed if I remember correctly, or was it an uproar because of the return to 5poa that he got caught up in? I'm not sure about this Han, but the Fett has me drooling.

Masterfett
09-03-2017, 10:28 AM
Han bespin is once again the most controversial figure! Has there ever been a han bespin that wasn't???
I think we, as Collectors, have just gotten too picky over time. Especially when we are spoiled with a couple figures that turn out superb.
Han is always plagued by something or another, if the jacket is fine it's the head sculpt that's wrong. If that's right, the legs are too thin. If the figure seems accurate, it happens to have been reversed so that the folds creases are backwards. Or he's got a scene specific smirk. TBH, most of the figure Hasbro makes has some issues. None have been 100% spot on.

Kylash327
09-03-2017, 10:32 AM
I finally found something bad about the Fett, his voice clips are the Morrison recordings, lol.

Julythrunov
09-03-2017, 10:44 AM
I think we, as Collectors, have just gotten too picky over time. Especially when we are spoiled with a couple figures that turn out superb.
Han is always plagued by something or another, if the jacket is fine it's the head sculpt that's wrong. If that's right, the legs are too thin. If the figure seems accurate, it happens to have been reversed so that the folds creases are backwards. Or he's got a scene specific smirk. TBH, most of the figure Hasbro makes has some issues. None have been 100% spot on.

I don't expect 100% from a Han figure or any figure(though we have unexpectedly gotten 100% on some figures, often the more insignificant characters:rolleyes:)

I would like a nice balanced Han with likeness, sculpting and articulation. Usually with this character the ratios are screwed up. We get s great sculpt with terrible articulation. Or we get SA but the sculpt of the jacket is beyond absurd with weird reused legs (and even weirder ankles) from Lando.

100% is not expected, just some reasonable balance. This figure doesn't need SA but elbows and knees would have been great.

See?

Internets
09-03-2017, 10:55 AM
As a 5POA figure, I prefer the previous version but this has more custom potential with a ball-joint head and removable jacket piece, both if which I might use on my existing custom Bespin Han.

Julythrunov
09-03-2017, 10:59 AM
I had to add some blue tack to the head socket but this is going to be my current Bespin Han.

Vorax
09-03-2017, 11:07 AM
I like the head on the Fett figure in terms of accuracy and overall aesthetics, wonder if it fits on a TVC Fett buck.

bigbarada
09-03-2017, 12:13 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_3052.PNG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_3052.PNG)

The post 40 stuff you're talking about might be evident on TFA sculpt but it's not on this Bespin han sculpt. I have to ask, do you own this Bespin han?

Well, I bought the 2-pack for the Boba Fett figure and had to settle for getting this Han Solo figure as part of the purchase. Otherwise, I wouldn't own him at all and wouldn't really feel the need to express my opinion on the figure. However, since I was "forced" to pay for a figure I didn't want to get a figure I did want, here we are.

Whenever I'm trying to draw a human likeness and there's something off that I just can't seem to put my finger on, I will usually just set the drawing aside and observe it for a couple of days to see if the flaw becomes more evident and it usually works (but sometimes I takes significantly more than a few days). So, for this figure, I popped off the head (being the most glaringly obvious flaw) and have had him sitting on my desk for a day or two already.

What I'm thinking right now is that his waist isn't necessarily too wide, but his shoulders might be too narrow (which goes along with the decreased muscle mass issue caused by old age). Plus, Han's Bespin jacket had a bit of a "shoulder pad" effect going on, so that makes the narrowness of this new figure's shoulders even more pronounced.

Going off of this photo of Han from ESB (which was taken from a distance with a wide angle lens, so you have to factor in some lens distortion; but Han is near the center of the image, so the distortion is minimized) and comparing it up side-by-side with the new figure, Han's shoulders are definitely too narrow and his thighs are also too skinny (which helps add to the "old man body" look).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/28/73/96287323c22dd7bd69227c85ffd82a10.jpg

Internets
09-03-2017, 12:23 PM
Yeah, the shoulders are way too rounded on the figure.

Maverick10126
09-03-2017, 02:21 PM
So I've compared this Han with the last Han bespin...and guess what? The waist and shoulder width are almost identical. In fact the shoulders of SL are a tad bit narrower. The arms of this one are slightly skinnier but overall the upper bodies are almost identical. The thighs on SL han are thicker and his stance obviously has more of a "hero" posture. Really the biggest difference is the head. SL has a giant head. New han's head sits super low, that's the biggest difference. And it's tiny. A bigger head would help the overall look.

DarkManX
09-03-2017, 03:14 PM
the figures look nice but I'm holding off for now. Generally, I'm more interested in new characters than the 500th version of character X. Judging by the shelves this is going to be the pegwarmer set, locally at least. Also looks like Chewie,3PO, and Rose are going to sit for awhile here.

darth_sidious
09-03-2017, 04:41 PM
the figures look nice but I'm holding off for now. Generally, I'm more interested in new characters than the 500th version of character X. Judging by the shelves this is going to be the pegwarmer set, locally at least. Also looks like Chewie,3PO, and Rose are going to sit for awhile here.

I'm in the same boat, the figures look good - Boba especially, but I have several Boba figures and a few Bespin Han figures as well. I'll pick it up on clearance maybe, because it looks to be a future pegwarmer. I think Hasbro should have avoided Han until next year, because they shouldn't leave fans fatigued when it comes to character saturation.

Julythrunov
09-03-2017, 04:48 PM
I think it's a very good move. There's plenty of new character figures, and I think 3 resculpted ot characters. So it gave me something to buy as I dong care too much for the new entertainment.

Masterfett
09-03-2017, 09:09 PM
Well, I bought the 2-pack for the Boba Fett figure and had to settle for getting this Han Solo figure as part of the purchase. Otherwise, I wouldn't own him at all and wouldn't really feel the need to express my opinion on the figure. However, since I was "forced" to pay for a figure I didn't want to get a figure I did want, here we are.

Whenever I'm trying to draw a human likeness and there's something off that I just can't seem to put my finger on, I will usually just set the drawing aside and observe it for a couple of days to see if the flaw becomes more evident and it usually works (but sometimes I takes significantly more than a few days). So, for this figure, I popped off the head (being the most glaringly obvious flaw) and have had him sitting on my desk for a day or two already.

What I'm thinking right now is that his waist isn't necessarily too wide, but his shoulders might be too narrow (which goes along with the decreased muscle mass issue caused by old age). Plus, Han's Bespin jacket had a bit of a "shoulder pad" effect going on, so that makes the narrowness of this new figure's shoulders even more pronounced.

Going off of this photo of Han from ESB (which was taken from a distance with a wide angle lens, so you have to factor in some lens distortion; but Han is near the center of the image, so the distortion is minimized) and comparing it up side-by-side with the new figure, Han's shoulders are definitely too narrow and his thighs are also too skinny (which helps add to the "old man body" look).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/28/73/96287323c22dd7bd69227c85ffd82a10.jpg

Thanks for posting that pic, now it's come to my attention there's another figure we need made! lol The guy with the helmet ^

Maverick10126
09-03-2017, 09:10 PM
Not a new Lando??

104749
09-03-2017, 09:56 PM
Wasn't planning on getting this set initially, but I caved. That Fett is too good.

Deak_Starkiller
09-03-2017, 10:14 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, now it's come to my attention there's another figure we need made! lol The guy with the helmet ^

You might want to blame the guy he's walking with the reason he may never get made. While this is a production shot, the actual movie scene shows him practically obscuring most of him since they're walking about the same pace.

And did you notice Lando is walking to their right when the scene immediately preceding it shows him walking to their left. The edit made it almost look like no considerable time had gone by.

Maverick10126
09-03-2017, 11:39 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMAG14141.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/showphoto.php?photo=375053)

My Custom Fett, yes I know awful pic...

I'll work on it some more but for now, you get the idea.

Maverick10126
09-03-2017, 11:41 PM
One thing to note, the arm pegs on Fett, super thin. One popped out fine, the other tore right off so there's no going back.

Idpullthecurtain
09-04-2017, 03:59 AM
I would love to see a comparison of this Fett with the Bespin Battle Pack. That is an amazing figure.

bigbarada
09-04-2017, 04:19 AM
the figures look nice but I'm holding off for now. Generally, I'm more interested in new characters than the 500th version of character X. Judging by the shelves this is going to be the pegwarmer set, locally at least. Also looks like Chewie,3PO, and Rose are going to sit for awhile here.

I bought a bunch of the new TFA characters in 2015 and several of the new Rogue One characters in 2016 and most of them are just piled in a box now and I don't really care about any of them. So, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to buy any of the new characters from TLJ right now and the more images I see from Ep8 the more I think I'm not really going to like the movie. I was willing to forgive TFA being mostly a remake of ANH, but I'm not thrilled with so many elements of TLJ feeling so derivative of ESB. I'll still watch the movie, but I think I will wait until after seeing the film before deciding what toys I want to buy, if any.

So, I'm definitely glad that we have some OT characters to choose from, otherwise I wouldn't have had anything new to buy last Friday at all.

Rocket_Back
09-04-2017, 09:07 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_48266.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_48266.JPG)

I bought this set 100% for the Boba Fett and didn't even give the Han Solo a second look until after I got it home. Amazingly, he had great paint apps, so I decided to keep him, but he's not going to display as just any Han on my shelf... I've decided to swap out the "torture" Han that was released during the TAC, because it was a horrendous sculpt, and display this Han on his rack. His stilted shoulders make him ideal for it, I think. The shirt isn't untucked like the other figure, and he's wearing his gun belt, but the other Han is such a train wreck, that I'd rather have a couple inaccuracies and a better looking figure.

lordtyrannus
09-04-2017, 09:52 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_48266.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_48266.JPG)

I bought this set 100% for the Boba Fett and didn't even give the Han Solo a second look until after I got it home. Amazingly, he had great paint apps, so I decided to keep him, but he's not going to display as just any Han on my shelf... I've decided to swap out the "torture" Han that was released during the TAC, because it was a horrendous sculpt, and display this Han on his rack. His stilted shoulders make him ideal for it, I think. The shirt isn't untucked like the other figure, and he's wearing his gun belt, but the other Han is such a train wreck, that I'd rather have a couple inaccuracies and a better looking figure.

Great idea! Stolen :).


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lordtyrannus
09-04-2017, 09:59 AM
There's always a use for spare figures. Thanks Rocket_Back! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/89ae65ae1c09ab903164651c0861f624.jpg


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Rocket_Back
09-04-2017, 05:35 PM
Soooo much better!

BlueBoxTraveler
09-04-2017, 06:44 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMAG14141.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/showphoto.php?photo=375053)

My Custom Fett, yes I know awful pic...

I'll work on it some more but for now, you get the idea.

Nice work! So you popped out the arms and put n an older set? How does the color match work out for you?

On another note...it's been awhile since I posted here. I just bought this set and the Han figure...not too bad, though I modded it slightly. Heated the figure up, widened the leg stance, brought the arms down closer to his sides and then used super glue in the socket of his head to make the head sit higher, and then removed his eyebrows with 1000 grit sandpaper and painted them lower down so he doesn't look so surprised. Looks a lot better now and I'm warming up to the look of the sculpt. Still hard to beat the SL figure for me but this is coming closer. Also, that new Chewie in the back there is really nice, just to put that out there. I'm going to look for another of this set to see if I can find a Han with better painted eyes and have another go wit hthe eyebrow repaint whle wearing my reading glasses to see if I can paint them on better, lol.
http://i65.tinypic.com/208i1ow.jpg

Maverick10126
09-04-2017, 07:29 PM
Arms are from the 300th fett. I had to drill the arm socket out to accommodate the arm pegs. The color doesn't match the old arms but I don't mind actually. The old arms matched the color of the chest but they shouldn't match. If anything I need to go back and paint the legs to match the arms. The chest on fett's suit is actually supposed to be a separate layer that's lighter in color. The undersuit is supposed to have a slight blue tint to it.

Nice work on the Han figure! I'm looking for ways to tweak and improve him myself. I'll be interesting to see what ideas everyone comes up....other than the torture rack ;)

MandaloreXXV
09-04-2017, 08:32 PM
I've scene a few people asking about cataloging the lines each figure reads with the force link deal. Boba has five that I've been able to active. Four of which appear to be taken from directly from the Battlefront audio files.

"He's no good to me dead"
"Orders are to finish you off"
"Don't bother hiding"
"I'm going to incinerate you"
"You're on borrowed time"

Masterfett
09-04-2017, 08:38 PM
Not a new Lando??
To be Frank, we've seen 8 Lando figures. So no big hurry there. But I wouldn't not buy him if released. Just not actively campaigning for it, like I am Tessek, or a few others.

Maverick10126
09-04-2017, 10:37 PM
To be Frank, we've seen 8 Lando figures. So no big hurry there. But I wouldn't not buy him if released. Just not actively campaigning for it, like I am Tessek, or a few others.

And the last bespin lando was 2004 if I'm not mistaken...

ESBbobafett
09-04-2017, 10:45 PM
I left Hasbro 3 3/4 to favour their 6 inch range and imports like Mafex, due to the inaccurate sculpting.

However, this one, albeit simple 5POA, has brought me in

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/cea309aaccc2b6e86c5173ca5fe60653.jpg


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Julythrunov
09-05-2017, 09:30 AM
I've scene a few people asking about cataloging the lines each figure reads with the force link deal. Boba has five that I've been able to active. Four of which appear to be taken from directly from the Battlefront audio files.

"He's no good to me dead"
"Orders are to finish you off"
"Don't bother hiding"
"I'm going to incinerate you"
"You're on borrowed time"

This force link thing is really weird and random. My fett has not said those last two lines. My Kylo ren suddenly screamed after about 4 days of playing with it and my a-wing said "this is where the fun begins(from Anakin skywalker).

Dead_Bothan
09-05-2017, 09:32 AM
What? Man, I don't understand the need for Force Link. I would rather they spend the money on more accessories or better sculpts instead. Or perhaps even lower prices....

Julythrunov
09-05-2017, 10:00 AM
I left Hasbro 3 3/4 to favour their 6 inch range and imports like Mafex, due to the inaccurate sculpting.

However, this one, albeit simple 5POA, has brought me in

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/cea309aaccc2b6e86c5173ca5fe60653.jpg


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You left 3.75" due to inaccurate sculpting?

Kylash327
09-05-2017, 02:01 PM
Its funny to me to hear people say "This is the best sculpt ever, just make it SA!"

You understand that once you take a great sculpt like this and chop it up into 25 parts and insert swivel and ball joints everywhere it's a lot harder to keep that "perfect" sculpt right? That's WHY this figure looks as good as it does, it doesnt have to accommodate for all of that.

Jeremiah2849
09-05-2017, 02:25 PM
Its funny to me to hear people say "This is the best sculpt ever, just make it SA!"

You understand that once you take a great sculpt like this and chop it up into 25 parts and insert swivel and ball joints everywhere it's a lot harder to keep that "perfect" sculpt right? That's WHY this figure looks as good as it does, it doesnt have to accommodate for all of that.

I never understood the salivation for SA figures. With all the joints they're so damn ugly it's not even funny. 5POA or thereabouts are still my favorite, by far,

DarthPete
09-05-2017, 05:12 PM
Ball jointed hips is where SA loses me everytime. I'll take T-crotch over diaper crotch any day.

That sounds effin' weird.

Maverick10126
09-05-2017, 05:42 PM
They have shown the ability to make great seamless joints....depending on the joints. That's where swivel joints can be a nice compromise assuming they are well placed.

Masterfett
09-05-2017, 06:31 PM
What? Man, I don't understand the need for Force Link. I would rather they spend the money on more accessories or better sculpts instead. Or perhaps even lower prices....
But this is a gimmick meant to get more people to buy them, so it's budgeted into the R&D. More accessories don't draw in new Consumers. lol


Its funny to me to hear people say "This is the best sculpt ever, just make it SA!"

You understand that once you take a great sculpt like this and chop it up into 25 parts and insert swivel and ball joints everywhere it's a lot harder to keep that "perfect" sculpt right? That's WHY this figure looks as good as it does, it doesn't have to accommodate for all of that.

Wrong! There have been many SA figures that look great. Sadly they don't do it every time, and people seem to only remember the bad sculpts to suit their purpose.

You can have your 5POA, I don't give a ****. Nobody is forcing you to buy SA instead, especially since they hardly make any. But the same cannot be said for SA Collectors can it? Hasbro has chosen a different route to go down, so there is no choice for us. We're basically being told that it's 5POA, and to like it or leave it. Then when they actually do make 5 SA figures for the year, we're supposed to act grateful and be very thankful.

Teedo
09-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Dude, people on the 5POA forums talk tons of crap about 5POA figures. Yet the minute someone defends them, you jump in to attack.

I quit collecting because of terrible SA sculpts. 5POA brought me back. I do wish they had a few more joints, but not those ball-wristed monstrosities.

Teedo
09-05-2017, 07:45 PM
Not trying to start a fight, I just think it's a waste of time for people to comment how much they hate 5POA on every 5POA thread.

Masterfett
09-05-2017, 11:23 PM
I never once said that I hate 5POA, I'd simply like a choice is all. I do buy 5POA if I need the character or a part from it, and it's obvious Hasbro isn't making an SA version. My post wasn't an attack on you for liking 5POA. It was simply a rebuttal to your comments, since you launched into hating on SA first.
So I thought it was open for debate is all.

SA seems to be looked upon as all or nothing approach with some people. I'm fine with minimal 12-14 POA, and not anything like Dagobah Luke.

ESBbobafett
09-05-2017, 11:47 PM
You left 3.75" due to inaccurate sculpting?

Just the ESB Boba plus saw the 1:12 / 6 inch bandwagon and decided to go for it. Yeah sure there's been a few beauties like SA IG-88, Dengar, Bossk etc. each to their own. Re the the 5POA debate cool if it looks good buy it, reminds me of the Stormtrooper I saw on the pegs and passed it up. Now my little Boba looks cool left at my work desk. I bring my Mafex to work for some eye candy, but it's always packed up for home time.


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MandaloreXXV
09-06-2017, 07:42 PM
This force link thing is really weird and random. My fett has not said those last two lines. My Kylo ren suddenly screamed after about 4 days of playing with it and my a-wing said "this is where the fun begins(from Anakin skywalker).

Yeah, it took me twenty minutes or so to get the alternate positions to give different quotes. In my rush to open everything and test stuff out i swear one of the preatorian guards said something and didn't just give a "swoosh" noise. For Boba, the last two quotes activate when the flappy part of the force link was angled down and usually only activated while the jet pack nose was active in that position. But i still can't find an exact rhyme or reason to get every figure to work every time.

Maverick10126
09-06-2017, 11:51 PM
Has anyone tried any alternate heads on Han Solo? I've only tried the 06 carbonite han head, it didn't fit. Just curious what options there might be for a swap.

Bo_Chooda
09-07-2017, 05:17 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/MasklessFett.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/MasklessFett.jpg)
Visorless Fett! :awesome:
(spotted at Meijer late last night)

Coreworld
09-07-2017, 06:10 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/MasklessFett.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/MasklessFett.jpg)
Visorless Fett! :awesome:
(spotted at Meijer late last night)

Lol! Now there's a real tribute to the Kenner version,if I saw one.

Coreworld
09-07-2017, 09:58 AM
i picked this one up today and got to say, yes the Fett is awesome, but for some reason I absolutely love the Bespin Han too. Granted I did have to rifle through for one which didn't have his eyebrows looking like he was being goosed by Fett in the pack, but y'know this has now become my favourite Han, he just seems to have the Solo attitude in his stance.

Dead_Bothan
09-07-2017, 02:22 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/MasklessFett.jpg (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/MasklessFett.jpg)
Visorless Fett! :awesome:
(spotted at Meijer late last night)


Yikes. I saw (and bought ��) a Luke that didn't have a belt. I didn't notice until I bought it.

Maverick10126
09-07-2017, 11:12 PM
Tried the echo base han head on this figure. Once again socket is too big and deep for the neck post. However I am really liking it as an alternative head. I may try putting some hot glue in it and trying it out.

bigbarada
09-08-2017, 04:16 AM
I never understood the salivation for SA figures. With all the joints they're so damn ugly it's not even funny. 5POA or thereabouts are still my favorite, by far,

I agree. All of my favorite figures released in the last 3-4 years have been 5POA figures. I have no problems with SA as long as it's done well; but there is so much more that can go wrong with all of those extra parts and many times Hasbro increases their chances of screwing the figures up by adding in soft goods or removable parts where it's not necessary.

I think this RetroBlasting video sums up many of my frustrations with modern super-articulation (he starts talking about the articulation of modern figures around the 4:55 mark):
https://youtu.be/db95VEQh6Uo

In my opinion, Hasbro's SA 3.75" line is best left as a 6-12 figure per year subline (similar to how Vintage worked from 2004-2007) and 5POA works best for the main line. When they try to churn out 20-30 new SA figures per year, quality inevitably suffers.

lordtyrannus
09-08-2017, 05:27 AM
I agree. All of my favorite figures released in the last 3-4 years have been 5POA figures. I have no problems with SA as long as it's done well; but there is so much more that can go wrong with all of those extra parts and many times Hasbro increases their chances of screwing the figures up by adding in soft goods or removable parts where it's not necessary.

I think this RetroBlasting video sums up many of my frustrations with modern super-articulation (he starts talking about the articulation of modern figures around the 4:55 mark):
https://youtu.be/db95VEQh6Uo

In my opinion, Hasbro's SA 3.75" line is best left as a 6-12 figure per year subline (similar to how Vintage worked from 2004-2007) and 5POA works best for the main line. When they try to churn out 20-30 new SA figures per year, quality inevitably suffers.

I quite enjoy the way things are set up now, with the main characters getting super articulated figures, and the 5POA line delving deeper into the secondary and tertiary characters. The faster production of less articulated figures means we get a much deeper character selection for each of the new films, which is important considering there's a new film almost every year. Then, the main characters still get some incredible super articulated representation in the supplementary SA line. I think it's a decent model so far. The only problem I've really seen is giving Walmart the exclusive to the super articulated figures, which has been nothing short of a disaster.


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Maverick10126
09-08-2017, 06:19 AM
I think some key swivel joints in the main line would be nice. Or some alternate arms to mix things up. For instance, some swivel elbow and wrists would improve the FO Stormtrooper greatly.

DarthPete
09-08-2017, 08:21 AM
I think the sweet spot would be 5-9POA for the basic line, character dependent.

Kal_El
09-08-2017, 09:01 AM
Personally, I miss ball jointed elbows, swivel wrists, and knees the most. I despise the thoracic and hip ball joints Hasbro uses on SW figures.

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kyboliciousfett
09-08-2017, 11:23 AM
I think the sweet spot would be 5-9POA for the basic line, character dependent.

^ this 100% . I'd still buy SA versions of many characters as well, but i think the 5-9 poa ,on a case by case basis, is the perfect way for the basic, and main, line to go with. I was one who looked at the revert to 5 poa as a headscratching step backward when the switch was made. However ,with the sculpting getting better, and the ability to stand most of these up....a talent that several SA figures are bereft of.....the 5 pointers grew on me and reminded me of the general fun of the vintage era. I can't give up on SA though. I still want my cake and to eat it too lol......however, i do believe taking the main line back to the days of POTJ ,where articulation seemed more on an as needed basis, thats the best way to go.

Maverick10126
09-08-2017, 12:12 PM
Potj was great, but maybe more otc. Some of the potj figures were really scene specific like bespin escape Leia for instance. Otc had the ability to be a little more neutral posed.

Masterfett
09-08-2017, 06:33 PM
Honestly, that's what this line reminds me of, POTJ. Both were/are arguably the best sculpts at the time, and remained so well into the Blue Saga line.
Only thing with POTJ figures, was the dynamic poses in some figures.

kyboliciousfett
09-08-2017, 06:42 PM
Honestly, that's what this line reminds me of, POTJ. Both were/are arguably the best sculpts at the time, and remained so well into the Blue Saga line.
Only thing with POTJ figures, was the dynamic poses in some figures.

I'll be the first to cast my vote against the return of dynamic poses lol....but i agree with your assessment. There is a twinge of POTJ to these TLJ figures, at least the best of POTJ's aesthetics, which help the appeal.

Vorax
09-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Most of the Han's have derpy eyes. The Fett is pretty decent for the class of figure . I like the flamethrowers, good for customs for super articulated figures.

Maverick10126
09-08-2017, 07:08 PM
Potj lando was almost perfect....except for the gun pose and partial crouch. He sums up the best and worst parts of the potj line. Perfect sculpt, slightly over action pose. That cape was amazing!

bigbarada
09-09-2017, 03:42 AM
POTJ Lando looked great, but didn't really work as a "Bespin escape" Lando, because Lando didn't wear his cape when he was escaping Bespin, and he didn't really work as the "friendly Bespin administrator" Lando, because he was locked in that permanent blaster wielding pose. These kinds of frustrations were the primary reason that I was so happy to see more articulation being added to the figures, around 2000-2003, because if Hasbro was intent on sculpting the toys in dynamic action poses, I at least wanted the option to take the figures out of those poses. However, if the figures are sculpted in neutral poses in the first place, then I find that I don't miss the extra articulation at all.

booston1
09-09-2017, 05:03 AM
I haven't seen this posted yet, here is the Legacy Collection body with the new head. It needs some putty to make it fit and it's a little big but it mostly works. http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_35835.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_35835.JPG)

King_Goji
09-09-2017, 09:13 AM
I haven't seen this posted yet, here is the Legacy Collection body with the new head. It needs some putty to make it fit and it's a little big but it mostly works. http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_35835.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/IMG_35835.JPG)I like it.
I originally bought mine for this purpose but liked the sculpt so much I put him on a shelf as-is.
Looks like I may need to grab another, or two.

ZiggyStarkiller
09-09-2017, 09:34 AM
I feel like the Saga Collection in 2006 had the perfect middle ground on articulation. I wasn't collecting during the vintage collection, but I did pick up some of the repacks they did for the 3.75" Black Series and the joints just feel sort of gummy to me. I like having elbows and knees, but due to size alone there's just not alot of poses you can pull off that you would he able to with a 6" figure, therefore I feel like it doesn't need to be articulated as much as one. Just make it so the figures can sit in a chair and hold their weapons with both hands and that's perfection to me.

DarthPete
09-09-2017, 12:16 PM
I feel like the Saga Collection in 2006 had the perfect middle ground on articulation. I wasn't collecting during the vintage collection, but I did pick up some of the repacks they did for the 3.75" Black Series and the joints just feel sort of gummy to me. I like having elbows and knees, but due to size alone there's just not alot of poses you can pull off that you would he able to with a 6" figure, therefore I feel like it doesn't need to be articulated as much as one. Just make it so the figures can sit in a chair and hold their weapons with both hands and that's perfection to me.

Agreed. Saga06 to TAC I think was just about right.

Masterfett
09-09-2017, 12:48 PM
I think so too. If it could get there, I'd be fine with the line. Then save SA(12-14 POA) for Hero characters, Jedi/Sith, Troopers/Soldiers etc.
Then i could start buying more figures again.

patrickdurfee
09-14-2017, 04:40 AM
Exactly how is the Han figure "New"? It's just a repainted Force awakens Han to look like Bespin Han

Internets
09-14-2017, 05:13 AM
*sigh* No it isn't.

DarkArtist
09-14-2017, 07:56 AM
Exactly how is the Han figure "New"? It's just a repainted Force awakens Han to look like Bespin Han

its not even close to being a repaint of the TFA Han. all new jacket, holster, shirt and head sculpt. I think the only similarities between TFA and Bespin Han may be the boots/legs of the figure. even the blaster is different from the TFA version.

patrickdurfee
09-14-2017, 08:48 AM
it still looks the same as Force Awakens Han figure. Same shirt and pants and boots. Even the head sculpt is the exact same. Doesnt even frikkin look like Bespin Han. Its still a Force Awakens Han figure.

How can you people not see that?

Internets
09-14-2017, 09:06 AM
I can't even.

Masterfett
09-14-2017, 10:51 AM
Maybe someone should just post a side by side comparison pic. lol

I get that he does look the same or similar to some people, as it is essential a recreation of his older look. But as he verbally pointed out to Leia, "No, new jacket".
Thee are some very minor differences between the TFA and ESB look. But enough to not be able to use one figure in place of another.

You cannot repaint TFA Han to look like ESB Han, or vise versa.

bonoferox
09-14-2017, 11:13 AM
Similar build but completely different. I thought at first sight it was the same as well.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/Han77.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/Han77.JPG)

Billy_Ray
09-14-2017, 11:24 AM
it still looks the same as Force Awakens Han figure. Same shirt and pants and boots. Even the head sculpt is the exact same. Doesnt even frikkin look like Bespin Han. Its still a Force Awakens Han figure.

How can you people not see that?

No...it's not Shutzie

Jeez

Billy_Ray
09-14-2017, 11:26 AM
it still looks the same as Force Awakens Han figure. Same shirt and pants and boots. Even the head sculpt is the exact same. Doesnt even frikkin look like Bespin Han. Its still a Force Awakens Han figure.

How can you people not see that?

What do you mean "you people"?

DarkArtist
09-14-2017, 11:36 AM
Similar build but completely different. I thought at first sight it was the same as well.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/Han77.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/Han77.JPG)

thank you for posting these... I was going to try and put them together tonight after work

Masterfett
09-14-2017, 12:47 PM
I don't think anything is the same, similar looking yes. Aside form the Blaster, it look 100% the same. The boots only look different in color, so maybe he has a certain style in several colors at home. The belt and holster could also be the same, but it rides much lower on ESB Han. So he must have given up the gunfighter days, or his arms are shorter now.

"Character" wise similarities are there, but I don't see how it could be mistaken for two very different "figures".